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Old 11-27-2012, 12:31 PM
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Default Landeskog for Granlund & Kuznetsov

I'm building right now and stock piling young guns. Our league uses peripheral stats and I enjoy stacking my team with guys who can hit and get PIMs and not just score. I'm thinking of making this trade offer.... Give Granlund & Kuznetsov, get Landeskog. I see Landeskog as a safer bet and he gets more perihperal stats. Kuznetsov is also a risk. This would also free up a keeper spot for me which may allow me to keep someone like Kesler (whom I'd pick up in another deal).

Would you make this deal if you could?

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Keeper League (Keep 10 skaters, 2 goalies).
C: Backes, Pavelski, Thornton, Grandlund, Kuznetsov
L: Benn, E. Kane, Dupuis, Kunitz, N. Filigno
R: Kassian, Tarasenko, Yakupov, Brouwer
D: B. Smith, Carlson, D. Hamilton, Giordano, Hamonic, Seidenberg, Goligoski
G: Rask, Schneider, Lindback, Anderson

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positions: C(x3), L(x3), R(x3), D(x6), Utility(1), G(x3), Bench(x6) =25 players.
Cats include: G(1), A(1), +/- (.5), PIM (.25), SHG (2), SHA (1), GWG (2), Hits and blocks (.1), W(2), GA (-.2), SV (.05), SO (5)
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:37 PM
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Welcome to the boards!

That would be a deal I'm definitely comfortable with making. I know Granlund has great upside but with the hits/blocks counting as .1, given last year's stats Landeskog would have had 26 points alone from those peripherals. Not to mention how this league fits his skill-set/play style very well.

Helps you consolidate assets in a league where you can only keep 10 skaters.

I like it if it's something you can swing.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:55 PM
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Definitely Landeskog as an upgrade over Granlund since you'd probably not keep Kuz anyways.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:17 PM
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this is a good trade in a limited keeper league. you should go for it.
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LW= ovechkin,nash,s.gagner,dubinsky
RW= downie,hemsky,callahan,voracek,perry,mueller
D= green,doughty,phaneuf,wisniewski,girardi,karlsson
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:10 PM
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Id do that deal as well. I like Kuz but who knows if he's going to come over. Im suspicious right now. Granlund is an injury risk. Grab Lando while you can. Next full season he could hit 70+.
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Landeskog side by a landslide IMO.
He's a multic-cat beast (270+ shots in his first season... Imagine what he could do next?)
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Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-PIM-SHP-SOG-FW-GWG
Goalie Cats: W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO

C- Crosby-Spezza-Ennis-Bolland
LW- Kovalchuk-Marchand-Landeskog-Boedker
RW- Pavelski-Oshie-Havlat-Burmistrov
D- Yandle-M.Green-J.Johnson-Carlson-Nikitin
G- Lehtonen-Varlamov-Hiller

Minors:
F: Brunner, Conacher, Adam, Nyquist, Phillips, Forsberg, Girgensons, Killorn, T. Johnson
D: Rundblad, Orlov, Sanguinetti
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:16 AM
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If you can swing it, then absolutely. I've tried to acquire Landeskog in a league that counts peripheries as well, and the counters I was receiving were involved big, established names going the other way. Every league is different, but my gut tells me that you'll need to up your offer to land him. At the very least, it's a good place to start.
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C: Crosby, Backstrom, H. Sedin, Boyle, Brassard
W: Voracek, Burrows, McDonald, Filppula, Dorsett, Hudler, Abdelkader, Bouchard, Ott, Zuccarello, Stalberg
D: Karlsson, Letang, Enstrom, Boyle, Giordano, Gorges, M. Stuart
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:12 PM
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You can offer it as it would be huge win for you but I don't see the other manager accepting the deal. Good luck.
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2 C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 4 D, 1 Util, 2 G, 4 BN
C: E Staal, Zetterberg (LW)*, Hanzal
RW: Eberle, Clarkson, Voracek, Iginla*
LW: Perron, Pacioretty, Saad
D: Ekman-Larsson, Seabrook, Orpik, Bouwmeester, Seidenberg
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:06 AM
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I'm in favour of this trade, obviously, as I'm the one offering it. However, I'm a bit surprised that people think it's so lopsided. Maybe I didn't give enough info? Both me (Granlund & Kuznetsov owner) and the other guy (Landeskog owner) are rebuilding and should be competitive in 2 years. So I'm thinking solely about future performance. Landsekog has more peripherals but I don't expect he will score at the pace of either Grandlund or Kuzentsov. There are KHL & injury risks, I agree. Is this offer really that unfair?
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C(x3), L(x3), R(x3), D(x6), Utility(1), G(x3), Bench(x6)

(Keep 10 skaters, 2 goalies)
C: Backes, Kuznetsov, Pavelski, Thornton, Grandlund
L: Benn, E. Kane, Dupuis, Kunitz, N. Filigno
R: Kassian, Tarasenko, Yakupov, Coyle
D: B. Smith, Carlson, D. Hamilton, Giordano, Hamonic, Seidenberg, Goligoski
G: Rask, Schneider, Lindback, Anderson
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:32 AM
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Landeskog all the way for me Zorn - As many have mentioned:
1- Kuz in Russia is a concern
2- Granlund could be a band-aid boy
3- Landeskog is the proven performer, the others are not.
4- Landeskog is a multi-cat stud, the others are not.

Also worth considering:
Yahoo will peg Grandlund as a C, but I don't know what they'll do with Kuz (I believe he plays RW, but who knows what they'll do). If they also peg him as a C then you have two unproven players at a position where there is an abundance of producing players under this format. Landeskog suits this league nicely in the LW slot.

If you were to keep Granlund and Kuz as two keepers, who would you drop from your original list? If you figure that you'd drop one of the two, then I'd view the deal as either Grandlund OR Kuz for Landeskog. If so, it strengthens the argument to go with Landeskog.

BY the way... this post made me chuckle as I know the GM:

"The other GM is a...*ahem*...Not a very "bright" fantasy hockey GM(to say the least!) "

Haha!
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