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Old 11-25-2012, 08:27 PM
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I have the opportunity to acquire Malkin in my limited keeper; see below for details.

12 team H2H partial keeper (keep 8 + 10 farm <=82 GP & age <25)
Start 12 F, 6 D, 2 G
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Current keepers: Giroux, Tavares, Kopitar, Parise, Zetterberg, Weber, Miller, Luongo

Farm: Tarasenko, Baertschi, Markstrom, Bernier, Bjugstad, Murphy, Orlov, Josefson, Watson, Colborne.

Reserves: Brown, Burrows, Okposo, Dubinsky.

Finally: the offer on the table is Malkin for Giroux + Tavares/Kopitar/Parise.

I would be most willing to include Parise rather than Tavares or Giroux. Would this be fair? I know that getting the best player in a limited keeper is a big deal, but this would likely make my last keeper Brown which is kind of weak. What do you guys think? I'm pretty torn.
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C: Kopitar, Toews, Krejci, M. Koivu, Plekanec, Johansson
LW: Eriksson (RW), Hartnell, M. Richards (C), McDonald (C)
RW: Malkin (C), St. Louis, Eberle, Gaborik, Atkinson, Cole
D: Karlsson, Pietrangelo, Doughty, Suter, Goligoski, Carle, Beauchemin
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:32 PM
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If you could do it for Parise/Kopitar I would do it.

Giroux + Parise is the best of what you posted, but I'd have a hard time doing that.

Just looking at Points...

Malkin - 110 pts
Brown - 60 pts
Total - 170 pts

Giroux - 90 pts
Parise - 75 pts
165 pts

Hmmmm... maybe I would do it. That opens up your last keeper slots for when you want to call up one of your prospects. Tough call.. could go either way.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:38 PM
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Out of curiosity what was the point production from all of these guys given your scoring settings last year?

You will definitely have to include Giroux... I think that is a given. i think as long as it's either Parise or Kopitar I'd be cool with that type of deal.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:45 PM
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Out of curiosity what was the point production from all of these guys given your scoring settings last year?

You will definitely have to include Giroux... I think that is a given. i think as long as it's either Parise or Kopitar I'd be cool with that type of deal.
Based on last season's stats:

Malkin: 8.27 FP/G
Giroux: 6.65 FP/G
Kopitar: 5.26 FP/G
Tavares: 5.18 FP/G
Parise: 4.61 FP/G
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C: Kopitar, Toews, Krejci, M. Koivu, Plekanec, Johansson
LW: Eriksson (RW), Hartnell, M. Richards (C), McDonald (C)
RW: Malkin (C), St. Louis, Eberle, Gaborik, Atkinson, Cole
D: Karlsson, Pietrangelo, Doughty, Suter, Goligoski, Carle, Beauchemin
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:59 PM
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Based on last season's stats:

Malkin: 8.27 FP/G
Giroux: 6.65 FP/G
Kopitar: 5.26 FP/G
Tavares: 5.18 FP/G
Parise: 4.61 FP/G
What about Brown?
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:01 PM
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What about Brown?
Brown: 4.13 FP/G
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C: Kopitar, Toews, Krejci, M. Koivu, Plekanec, Johansson
LW: Eriksson (RW), Hartnell, M. Richards (C), McDonald (C)
RW: Malkin (C), St. Louis, Eberle, Gaborik, Atkinson, Cole
D: Karlsson, Pietrangelo, Doughty, Suter, Goligoski, Carle, Beauchemin
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:01 PM
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Based on last season's stats:

Malkin: 8.27 FP/G
Giroux: 6.65 FP/G
Kopitar: 5.26 FP/G
Tavares: 5.18 FP/G
Parise: 4.61 FP/G
Looks like I sold Kopitar short.

Even with keeping in mind that Parise will probably be better next season especially on the PP front, you also have to wonder if some of the folks on these boards will be right in guessing that Giroux's PP numbers may dip a bit. In any case, you're still getting one of the players with the highest upsides in the game and it's a limited keeper. You have some great prospect depth so there's always a chance you could use that to upgrade that last keeper.

If it's Giroux + Parise I'd do it. If it's Giroux + Kopitar I'd still probably do it. I'd draw the line at Giroux + Tavares...too much long-term pain for me with that one.

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If it's Giroux + Parise I'd do it. If it's Giroux + Kopitar I'd still probably do it. I'd draw the line at Giroux + Tavares...too much long-term pain for me with that one.
Agreed here with Bondon. Solid advice there. Send out the offer and good luck fishing....
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Malkin for Giroux + Kopitar/Parise.
That is a deal you can afford to do. You'll lose a bit on the bottom end with Brown/Burrows but gain that much more on your top keeper.
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The only trade I will do will be Giroux+Parise...
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