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Old 11-18-2012, 04:34 PM
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Made this move in a limited keeper where I was deciding between Duchene and Zetterberg for my last keeper.

Duchene for Baertschi + 3rd round pick in re-entry draft

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Stats: G=4, A=3, PPP=3, SHG=3, +/-=1, PIM=0.5, SOG=0.2, BLK=0.5 / W=3, SV=0.3, GA=-1, SHO=3

Keepers: Giroux, Tavares, Parise, Kopitar, Zetterberg/Duchene, Weber, Miller, Luongo

Farm: Tarasenko, Markstrom, Bernier, Bjugstad, Murphy, Orlov, Josefson, Colborne, Watson, Filatov

Now I'll slot Baertschi onto my farm and drop one of Watson/Filatov. I also have 2x 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 8th, 2x 9th, 2x 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th in the upcoming draft. How do you guys think I did?
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That's a great deal... it solves your keeper conundrum, and you get a decent replacement that you can chuck onto your farm for the next couple of years and snag a pick for it too.

You basically would have lost Duchene for nothing, so getting something back in return is perfect.

Seems good to me!
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That's a great deal... it solves your keeper conundrum, and you get a decent replacement that you can chuck onto your farm for the next couple of years and snag a pick for it too.

You basically would have lost Duchene for nothing, so getting something back in return is perfect.

Seems good to me!
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That's a great deal... it solves your keeper conundrum, and you get a decent replacement that you can chuck onto your farm for the next couple of years and snag a pick for it too.

You basically would have lost Duchene for nothing, so getting something back in return is perfect.

Seems good to me!
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You both did well. I think you could've gotten a bit more for Duchene,.... or you could have lost him for nothing, right? Baertschi is certainly no slouch in return plus you can stash him away which is really nice for now.

Keeping Zetterberg over Duchene is good too. He's more than proven and I believe he will continue to be very effective for years to come.

As far as the drops; Hang onto Colborne, he still deserves a fair shake at this point. Then between Watson and Filatov you could flip a coin since I don't have faith in either of them... but I'm pretty damn sure we won't be seeing Filatov on NHL ice from here on out.
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not sure i like Zetterberg over Duchene, but the trade seems to be pretty even.
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If he demanded Duchene in the deal and you had no other trade partners on the horizon, I think you did quite well on this deal.
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Made this move in a limited keeper where I was deciding between Duchene and Zetterberg for my last keeper.

Duchene for Baertschi + 3rd round pick in re-entry draft

League details:
12 team H2H keep 8 + 10 farm
Start: 2C, 2LW, 2RW, 3F, 4D, 2G
Stats: G=4, A=3, PPP=3, SHG=3, +/-=1, PIM=0.5, SOG=0.2, BLK=0.5 / W=3, SV=0.3, GA=-1, SHO=3

Keepers: Giroux, Tavares, Parise, Kopitar, Zetterberg/Duchene, Weber, Miller, Luongo

Farm: Tarasenko, Markstrom, Bernier, Bjugstad, Murphy, Orlov, Josefson, Colborne, Watson, Filatov


Now I'll slot Baertschi onto my farm and drop one of Watson/Filatov. I also have 2x 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 8th, 2x 9th, 2x 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th in the upcoming draft. How do you guys think I did?
I would have kept the younger Duchene and moved Zets for the same package. Bigger fan of Duchene. Baertschi is a great pickup, reminds me of a younger Hossa. If you're happy, i'm happy
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:58 PM
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I would have kept the younger Duchene and moved Zets for the same package. Bigger fan of Duchene. Baertschi is a great pickup, reminds me of a younger Hossa. If you're happy, i'm happy
I like Zets a bit more than Duchene in this setup, especially with SOG counted. Would have loved to Keep Duchene and keep my core younger, but Zets is still a beast so I can't complain. The guy needed Duchene in order to make this happen.
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Very nice move.

You have some nice young keepers and having a consistent, reliable Zetterberg is a nice keep. And Baertschi immediately becomes your 2nd best farm player.
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