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Old 11-08-2012, 09:51 AM
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So who are the best power forward prospects out there? Who will be the next David Backes/Milan Lucic/Scott Hartnell?

Since the definition of power forward varies, here's some basic criterions the prospect must fill:

- Good goal scorer (30+ goal upside)
- 50+ points upside
- Loves to engage physically (150+ hits upside)
- Willingness to drop the gloves (100+ PIM upside); occasional dirty hits will do too since this is fantasy hockey

So not looking for the next Ovechkin here (lacks in the PIM department; that rules out Yakupov I would think). Has to be a power forward in the traditional sense (like Tocchet, Stevens, Tkachuk, Shanahan, Neely etc.) so needs to have good PIM totals too on top of great goal and good point totals.

Anyone come to mind that could be the next multi-cat stud to own? There are a lot of good power forward prospects out there but looking for the best of them. The next big multi-cat fantasy stud like Backes is.

M.Foligno seems like a solid candidate but I don't think he'll be quite the goal scorer and points guy as Backes/Lucic/Hartnell are.
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The first name that came to my mind was Zack Kassian. I am not sure if he has 30G upside but given the right opportunity, he could come close.

Tom Wilson is another name that I will throw out there as a strong possibility.
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The first name that came to my mind was Zack Kassian. I am not sure if he has 30G upside but given the right opportunity, he could come close.

Tom Wilson is another name that I will throw out there as a strong possibility.
Those are two good candidates. I think the jury is still out with regards to their goals and points upsides but they can definitely put up the needed hits and PIM totals.
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Marcus Foligno
Kyle Beach
Brad Ross (long-shot on the 50+ point part)
Zach Budish
Michael Ferland (again, long-shot for 50+ points)
Nick Foligno (could still make it)
Devante Smith-Pelly
Andrew Shaw (long-shot for 50+ points)

Edit: Not sure about 30+ goals here but I stuck with 50+ points as my measuring stick.
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ericdaoust nails it. IMO

Really like Marcus Foligno.
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Marcus Foligno
Kyle Beach
Brad Ross (long-shot on the 50+ point part)
Zach Budish
Michael Ferland (again, long-shot for 50+ points)
Nick Foligno (could still make it)
Devante Smith-Pelly
Andrew Shaw (long-shot for 50+ points)

Edit: Not sure about 30+ goals here but I stuck with 50+ points as my measuring stick.
That's a lot of good choices but a lot of those likely won't have the need points upside IMO.

Beach is still really intriguing prospect and has the upside looked for in here. Doesn't look like he'll reach it though but power forwards take time to develop so maybe Beach is just having the slower path into reaching his upside.

Nick Foligno isn't prospect anymore but otherwise good choice. He's actually already almost there (47 points, 124 PIM and 196 hits last year). Just falls short on goals and like won't get that close to 30 goal mark. But still a very good multi-cat guy.
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So who are the best power forward prospects out there? Who will be the next David Backes/Milan Lucic/Scott Hartnell?

Since the definition of power forward varies, here's some basic criterions the prospect must fill:

- Good goal scorer (30+ goal upside)
- 50+ points upside
- Loves to engage physically (150+ hits upside)
- Willingness to drop the gloves (100+ PIM upside); occasional dirty hits will do too since this is fantasy hockey

So not looking for the next Ovechkin here (lacks in the PIM department; that rules out Yakupov I would think). Has to be a power forward in the traditional sense (like Tocchet, Stevens, Tkachuk, Shanahan, Neely etc.) so needs to have good PIM totals too on top of great goal and good point totals.

Anyone come to mind that could be the next multi-cat stud to own? There are a lot of good power forward prospects out there but looking for the best of them. The next big multi-cat fantasy stud like Backes is.

M.Foligno seems like a solid candidate but I don't think he'll be quite the goal scorer and points guy as Backes/Lucic/Hartnell are.
What about Cory Conacher ?? He's a very gritty player and he'll put up points I just don't know anything about how much of a hitter he is ?? And YES I know he is really small but I don't think he knows that !! He could be a fantastic sleeper ??
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Barkov is a good power forward pick coming up in the draft. He probably won't crack 100 PIM, but he could settle around 150 hits, and his scoring could end up a lot higher than Backes or Lucic which would make up for the PIM a bit.

Power forward's are really hard to peg this early in their development....as of right now the big PIM players (Moroz, Wilson, etc.) haven't showed much offense and it's hard to tell if it will ever develop. And the players that have showed the required scoring upside (Kreider, Coyle, etc.) don't have the PIM or maybe even hits to qualify.

Power forward types in my experience are usually players you need to acquire a few years after their draft.....we all know those players usually take a little longer to develop, so they will usually hit a lull in their hype after 3-4 years which is a good time to buy low-ish on them. By that point you have some more information on them and a better understanding of their overall upside.....but you're still able to get them pretty cheap.

That's why Tangradi is finally a trade target for me this year.....people are finally giving up on him but he's still only 23. Now is the perfect time to take a chance on him as the asking price should be fairly low, but the potential has always been there and it's been 5 years since he was drafted. If he's ever going to break into the NHL now is the time.
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What about Cory Conacher ?? He's a very gritty player and he'll put up points I just don't know anything about how much of a hitter he is ?? And YES I know he is really small but I don't think he knows that !! He could be a fantastic sleeper ??
Naw, too small to be a power forward and not even guaranteed to make the NHL full time yet.
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