We've seen it before.

Ed Olczyk coaches a team that is primed for a breakout, but he has been with them during their early struggles and by the time they are ready to win... they have a bit of a losing mentality with the current coach. Michel Therrien takes over and 'voila', he's a star coach who leads them to 47 wins. Just a great coach all of a sudden, right? No. I could have taken over that team and had that success.

Dale Tallon builds patiently through smart drafting and signing. He leaves a few faxes with an underling to take care of, and fails to follow up. After all, how could someone forget to fax contracts? He assumed it got done, and that turned out to be a mistake. He fell on the sword, which to me was honorable. Anyway, he gets fired. Stan Bowman takes over and 'voila' they win the Cup. Wow, what a great GM, right? No. I could have taken over that team and had that success.

The Oilers finish last year after year, stocking up on elite players. How many years in a row can a team add the best teenager in the world without moving into the playoffs? Probably five or six. Well, that's done now. Tom Renney is great with the kids, but a new coach will get them thinking 'win' every game. Let's call the new coach Mr. X. So Mr. X leads this team to 12th in the league in 2012-13, up from 29th. Wow! He should win the Jack Adams, right? Uh, no. I can coach the Oilers next year and move them up the standings.

Yes, I'm exaggerating, but I'm dead serious about the point of all this. Whoever coaches the Oilers next season will be hailed a hero, no matter how crappy he is. Was Therrien a good coach? No, Dan Bylsma had to come in and get them over the hump. But he was hailed a hero. Is Bowman a good GM? The jury is still out, but I'm not impressed with anything he has done...but he has a Cup ring.

Sometimes, it's all in the timing. Congratulations Mr. X on your 2013 Jack Adams nomination.

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F - Crosby, C.Smith, Wheeler, Parenteau, Hudler, Clowe, Grabovski, Atkinson, Frolik, S. Kostitsyn, Marchand, Peverley, Tavares, Read, Brouwer, Bickell, Gionta, Setoguchi
G - Anderson, Hiller, Markstrom, Brodeur
D - Letang, Del Zotto, I. White, Kronwall, Brodin, Nikitin

hear hear, well said

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W=2 OTL=.8 GA=-.64 SV=.08 SO=3

Pro (23 keep 17)
C- Filppula,Turris,Stastny,Backstrom
D-Boyle,MDZ,Karlsson,Robidas,Goligoski,Schenn,Seiden berg
G-Anderson,Hiller,Rinne
LW-Malone,Parise,Rolston,Eriksson,Ruutu
RW-Alfredsson,Callahan,Setoguchi,Brown,Ryder,Vrbata

Farm (9 keep all, max 200 GP, 100 Goalies)
Colborne,Leblanc,Loktionov,Perreault,Tangradi,Blum ,Poulin,Markstrom

Yeah, that's probably true. I hadn't thought about it, but yeah, it happens.

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Team 1:10 Multi-Cat Roto league

C- Malkin,Giroux,Thornton Galchenyuk, Schenn, Berglund, Eller
LW- Hall,Ovechkin, E.Kane Saad
RW- Seguin, Stewart, PAP
D- Subban,Phaneuf Keith, OEL, Hedman,
G- Pavelec,Hiller Lindback, Theodore, Lehner

Team 2:24 H2H League Multi-Cat

C- Lecavalier, B. Schenn, Ennis, Belanger
LW- JVR, Leino, Bissonnette, Whitney, C. Bourque, Nodl
RW- Kopecky, Langenbrunner, Doan, Versteeg, Mayers
D- Doughty, Burns, Souray, Sarich, Lovejoy, Potter
G-Pavelec, Enroth

What about Burke/Ducks?

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It's really looking more and more like Sutter will get the job, but who knows for sure. I'm no certain even Scotty Bowman himself could clean up the giant mess in Edmonton right now.

Giant mess? I guess, when you have too many future superstars in a bucket, some are bound to spill over and make a mess on the floor. Is that what you mean?

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14 Team Keeper, points only, best 12 skaters 2 dman 2 G count. Playoffs count.
F - Crosby, C.Smith, Wheeler, Parenteau, Hudler, Clowe, Grabovski, Atkinson, Frolik, S. Kostitsyn, Marchand, Peverley, Tavares, Read, Brouwer, Bickell, Gionta, Setoguchi
G - Anderson, Hiller, Markstrom, Brodeur
D - Letang, Del Zotto, I. White, Kronwall, Brodin, Nikitin

Disagree.
I think you are pushing the words here.

"Hero" = saves the day = Playoffs.
There is a very distinct line, IMO, for a coach being called a "hero".

If you "almost" save a person from drowning, you are not a hero.
If EDM's coach "almost" gets them to the playoffs, he won't be a hero.
Keep his job... yes... hero, no.


(I get the point... but for somebody who reads as much as you do... perhaps you could pick a better word.)

That's what I'm saying Pengwin - he'll get them into the playoffs. And I know this team's track record is to miss the playoffs for so many years in a row. But this is the year they'll get in, and it is just coincidence that they have a new coach. Chicken, meet egg. Did they get in thanks to the new coach? I say NO. But fans and media will mostly say YES.

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14 Team Keeper, points only, best 12 skaters 2 dman 2 G count. Playoffs count.
F - Crosby, C.Smith, Wheeler, Parenteau, Hudler, Clowe, Grabovski, Atkinson, Frolik, S. Kostitsyn, Marchand, Peverley, Tavares, Read, Brouwer, Bickell, Gionta, Setoguchi
G - Anderson, Hiller, Markstrom, Brodeur
D - Letang, Del Zotto, I. White, Kronwall, Brodin, Nikitin

If the new coach takes the team from 29th to a playoff team then I will hail him as a hero, yes!

I think you go to far Dobber...pray tell explain where exactly you see them fitting into this? CGY sucks so you can kick them out, but who else are they going to usurp to sneak into the playoffs? Lots of those teams are good-getting better

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P=1 DPts=1.2 +/-=.32 PIM=.08 PPP=.4 SHP=.6 S=.015 Blk=.2 Hit=.08
W=2 OTL=.8 GA=-.64 SV=.08 SO=3

Pro (23 keep 17)
C- Filppula,Turris,Stastny,Backstrom
D-Boyle,MDZ,Karlsson,Robidas,Goligoski,Schenn,Seiden berg
G-Anderson,Hiller,Rinne
LW-Malone,Parise,Rolston,Eriksson,Ruutu
RW-Alfredsson,Callahan,Setoguchi,Brown,Ryder,Vrbata

Farm (9 keep all, max 200 GP, 100 Goalies)
Colborne,Leblanc,Loktionov,Perreault,Tangradi,Blum ,Poulin,Markstrom