Originally Posted by 4horsemen
Your oberservation that Grigs looks timid is interesting because that is exactly what I thought I might hear and exactly what keeps my opinion of him so low. It's strange to me that a big body with his skill has 8 PIM on the year. He has none in the NHL and a total of 12 in a full season last year. This is a big kid we're talking about here, he should be taking more penalties than that off of marginal, roughing types of calls but he just hasn't shown any sandpaper to his game ever and seems to avoid contact at all costs. He seems to have Jagr esque skills without any of the drive that made Jagr a superstar. If you look back over Jagr's stats you'll find he averaged about 60 PIM's a year, those numbers are indicative of a large player who leveraged his size and speed to drive the net, work pucks out of the corners and generally use his size to his advantage while fighting off contact.
I think this is a poor analysis of his game, tbh. Just because he's not a physical player racking up PIM because of his size, does not mean he's not playing with passion. It just isn't his game, he's not the first skilled player to post low PIM numbers.
He actually good on the boards, and uses his size to his advantage there. The fact that he doesn't take a lot of PIM is actually kind of impressive. You use Jagr's PIM as a comparable, but how many of those 60 per year were actually roughing type penalties? And how many were lazy hooking/holding penalties in the defensive zone because Jagr couldn't be bothered to actually play defense?
The coaching staff in Buffalo still likes Grigo, but I think it's clear they're leaning towards sending him back. That's not a failure on Grigo's part he's 18 years old, it's just how it is. He's shown flashes in his time with the Sabres and that's the important thing right now. I would expect him back next season, and he'll be there to stay.
20 Team Dynasty (points per) - G (25, 50 for defense) A (25) PIM (3) +/- (5) PPG (15) SHG (25) OTG (15) GWG (25) HTr (50) GP (2) HIT (1) BLK (1) Use actual NHL salary
F: Malkin, Tavares, E. Kane, Parenteau, Havlat, Tarasenko, Galchenyuk, Brunner, Boyes, Kruger, Helm, M. Martin, Bergenheim, Carcillo, Stajan
D: Green, Ehrhoff, Ekman-Larsson, Coburn, Daley, Postma
G: Fleury, Mason, Montoya
Farm: Grigorenko, Grimaldi, Kucherov, D. Shore, Hartikainen, Stransky, Kerdiles, Joensuu, Pageau, Murphy, Ceci, Klefbom, Thrower, Donovan, Ekholm, Lehner, Dansk, Poulin, Nilsson, Andersen