Originally Posted by rtstr
drafting for a new league tonight-- 20 team, head-to-head points league. 15 man rosters, keep 2.
start 2 c, 2 lw, 2 rw, 4 d, 1 g. 5 bench spots.
scoring values are:
Goals = 3
Assists = 2
Plus/minus = 0.3
Penalty Minutes = 0.2
Power Play Goals = 0.6
Power Play Assists = 0.4
Short Handed Goals = 3
Short Handed Assists= 2
Faceoffs Won= 0.1
Shots on goal= 0.1
Hits = 0.2
Blocked Shots = 0.3
Wins = 5
Goals Against = -0.96
Shutouts = 4
Overtime Losses = 2.5
the obscure point values make it tough for me to figure out what kind of player this format favors.
I'm thinking my first 2 picks should be drafted according to the fact that we keep 2 players; then I will build around them. Ideally, that'll be a star forward and a goalie. Getting a good goalie is going to be huge in a 20 team league.
But, I am having a tough time analyzing this format. I know a lot of the guys on here are good at that. If someone could take a look at this setup and weigh in on how they would approach this draft, that would be great.
i've also never done a 20 team draft-- i don't know my draft position, so it's hard to plan ahead. I'm going to have a lot of time between picks so I need to draft to fill positions and not sacrifice depth.
Thanks for the input fellas
That's tough scoring so I'm going to pro-rate it and divide everything by 3.
G = 1
A = .67
PIM = 0.067 (15 PIM = 1pt, 150 PIM Goon = +10pts)
PPG = 0.2 (5 PPG = 1pt, 15 PPG guy = +3pts)
PPA = 0.13 (7.5 PPA = 1pt, 15 PPA guy = +2pts)
Faceoffs Won= 0.033 (30 FOW = 1pt, 600 FOW center = +20pts)
SOG= 0.033 (30 SOG = 1pt, 300 SOG sniper = +10pts)
Hits = 0.067 (15 HITS = 1pt, 150 Hits = +10pts)
BkS = 0.1 (10 Bks = 1pt, 200 BkS = +20pts)
Wins = 1.67pts (40W goalie = 67pts)
For the next part, let's consider a 2.00GAA goalie who saves 28/30 shots per game.
Goals Against = -0.23 (In a typical game, 30 shots, 2 ga = -0.46)
Saves =0.0267 (In a typical game, 30 shots, 28 saves = 0.75)
*This means that the average goalie will make about 0.29pts per game in saves, not much. Not nearly enough to be significant.
Shutouts = 1.33pts (6 SO = 8pts)
OK... here's what I get from these setting.
(BTW, I HATE, HATE, HATE these leagues... they only reward a mathematician that actually programs everything into an Excel spreadsheet... the smartest hockey mind won't even necessarily win these pools).
To win, you'll need:
1. TOP CENTERS & WING-ELIGIBLE CENTER that take lots of FOW.
What is your fantasy-provider (Fantrax? CBS?).
Guys that take FOW, possibly guys that HIT too, if possible. Print out a list of top FOW players. In round 7 or 8, a guy like Tomas Plekanec is going to be a decent pick. Also, it is CRITICAL that you draft guys you can slot in your wing that take face-offs. CRITICAL. There are too many points available for FOW (you commish effed this up, you take advantage).
2. TOP DEFENSE that gets Hits & BkS: 20 teams x 4D= 80D. There is an enormous drop-off in defenseman talent. I'd get two defensemen STUDS that do everything, includes blocks & hits. There's FOUR I love: Weber, Letang, Byfuglien, Chara. If this is a keeper, do them in that order. Karlsson too. Go to NHL.com, get familiar with real-time stats. I'd get two elite defensemen early and two defensemen VERY, VERY, VERY late that get Hits/BkS/PIM: Mark Stuart and Kyle Quincey will fit this bill very nicely. Adam McQuaid & Dan Girardi also work nicely.
3. You will NOT need a top goalie to win this league.
The best goalies put up 40W in a season... that's only 67pts.
A 40G/40A skater will score 67pts & there are a lot more peripherals for skaters to add points.
Here's how I'd probably draft this league, use this as a GUIDE, not as a set-draft-strategy:
1. ELITE CENTER (Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos, Giroux, Tavares) or Karlsson
2. TOP FOW CENTER (Toews, H.Sedin, Backes) or ELITE DEFENSEMAN (Letang/Weber/Byfuglien/Chara)
3. ELITE DEFENSEMAN (Letang/Weber/Buff/Chara)
4. Here, I'd make sure you have 2 guys that take FOW, 2 defensemen. Ideally, you should have one wing-eligible center by now. (Backes, Benn, Datsyuk, Zetterberg - all qualify in most leagues)
5. GOALIE. I think the top 20 goalies will be picked over by now... but if there is still a Lindback, Varlamov, Pavelec, Nabokov, or Crawford on the table... that's fine.
6-8. Fill out your wings with guys that take FOW & HIT. In the 8th round, a guy like Martin Hanzal is an absolutely fine pick.
Last three rounds: Take 3 defensemen that get lots of HITS/BkS/PIM. Focus on HITS, they are consistent. Luke Schenn is another great pick here along with Mark Stuart, Francois Beauchemin, Kyle Quicney, McQuaid, Meszaros, Robidas. Do not target points with these guys... just HITS/BkS/PIM... there's enough points for those things alone.
OK, good luck.
ps. If this is a "big-money" league, go over to FantasyHockeyGeek and input all this information, trust me... it's worth it for a league like this. (and I'm not affiliated with FHG, nor do I try to suggest people should pay money to win their leagues... but this scoring is just silly and you need help with it.)