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Originally Posted by eyemissgilmour
How is that not what you said?
Instead of addressing the problem of rapidly rising player salaries (a concept I support, and why I'm pro-owner), you completely ignored it, and instead brought up the necessity of "more meaningful revenue sharing."
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The players' salaries have grown as a result of league revenue growing.
Regardless of the size of their slice of the pie this growth rate would be unchanged, ergo it is not the problem. Complain about the size of their share, sure, but the growth rate is not the issue here. I believe I did already mention that.
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Originally Posted by eyemissgilmour
The irony of that approach is particularly oozing, since you wrote earlier that the players get what the "free market" says they should get.
So, it's a free market up until it isn't a free market anymore? Ok then.
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Fairly certain I've not been throwing around 'free market' as the cap and cap floor impose maximums and minimums, perhaps you have me confused with someone else.
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Originally Posted by eyemissgilmour
And I never said ticket prices would go down. Talk about putting words in my mouth. Just like I never said the players were making out like bandits. But a surefire way to ensure ticket prices continue to rise rapidly would be to allow salaries to keep spiralling out of control.
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You said the teams were passing on escalating costs to you which seemed to suggest you felt they would pass savings on to you. I did say 'if you think' so that isn't what I'd call 'putting words in your mouth', merely asserting that if you held that belief that you'd be nuts.
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Originally Posted by eyemissgilmour
But a surefire way to ensure ticket prices continue to rise rapidly would be to allow salaries to keep spiralling out of control.
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See, here is the problem with your argument. You have the causal relationship backwards. Player salaries (collectively) are determined by league revenue. League revenue is largely (60% or so) determined by ticket revenue. So as ticket prices increase player salaries MUST increase (thank you cap floor!).
You think:
Players Salaries increasing causes ticket prices to increase.
Reality says:
Ticket revenues increasing causes player salaries to increase.
Now the profitability issues for a large chunk of the teams results from the revenue increase NOT being very evenly distributed whereas the cost increase IS evenly distributed.
Columbus revenue went up 12% from 2005 to 2009, the player costs went up 15% in the same span.
Toronto revenue went up 35% from 2005 to 2010, the player costs went up 16%.
(forbes numbers fyi)
Yes the system is failing but it is not in any way 'caused' by player salary growth as that growth is a dependent variable in the NHL's economic system.
