Originally Posted by Axeman33
The OP said he wasnt too high on O'Reilly. All I was trying to say is that O'Reilly is a quality player and is worth considering in a deal that includes a + for one of those 3 Dmen. That being said, the OP's + of Tavares I am going to assume is his attempt at politely saying no thanks to O'Reilly. I dont know the reasons why he dosent like O'Reilly. Personally I am a fan and if the + coming the other way was another quality player, it would be an offer I would have considered.
Perhaps I play in shallower 8 & 12 team leagues but O'Reilly wasnt even drafted in those leagues, and isn't a guaranteed first line C on Colorado.
For "O'Reilly+", the "+" was never described/specified. Letang is a top Dman with these cats, and I wasn't planning to trade him for a player that is the 5th C on the other guys bench. I am not sure he would even be considered a keeper for me.
Fantrax ratings skews in favor of C, hence Weiss ranked 16, Plekanec 21, Kesler 22, Ribeiro 35, and Jokinen 37. Heck even Laich is 60, Desharnais 67, THEN O'Reilly at 68.
O'Reilly was the 37th ranked C, meanwhile Chara was 3rd D, Byfuglien 9th D in 66 games, Letang 16th D in 51 games.
Twall and I do have different valuations of players (reflected in our team drafts) and that's why we thought opinions from respected Dobber posters might help us compromise.