That would be a solid deal for you in a limited keeper..consolidating some assets and grabbing a top keeper.

Thanks for all the answers. I'm perfectly aware that it's gonna take more, it was only a starting point. I wanted to see what kind of return you would be expecting if you were a Stamkos owner. Pretty much within what I'm willing to give, but let's just say that if I'm able to pull this one off without giving up Backstrom or Staal, I'll be dancing in the streets.

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11 TEAMS POINTS ONLY KEEPER LEAGUE
12 Fwds + 6 Dmen + 2 Goalies - Keep any 12
G/A = 1 pt / W = 2 pts / SO = extra 2 pts

F: N. Backstrom / E. Staal / R. Nash / H. Zetterberg / J. Skinner / E. Kane / B. Wheeler / J. Pavelski / D. Desharnais / T. Purcell / T. Fleischmann / D. Brown

D: K. Shattenkirk / C. Ehrhoff / J. Carlson / S. Gonchar / P. Martin / C. Franson

G: P. Rinne / M. Kipprusoff


KEEPERS FROM LAST SEASON IN BOLD

You will have to add Backstrom to the deal. I cant see this deal going through without him being involved. If you came to me offering Nash and Skinner for Stamkos I would think that you werent serious about trading for him.

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12 Team NHL Salary Cap Dynasty
H2H, Salary Cap 82mil, Player actual salaries
G,A,PTS,GWG,PIM,SOG,STP,HT,BL,+/-,W,GAA,SV,SO
Starters: 12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies

F - Stamkos, Perry, E.Staal, Voracek, J.Staal, Simmonds, Ott, Downie, J.Jokinen, Eller, Nielson, Prust
D - Martin, Faulk, Brodie, Ellerby, M.Weber, Stone
G - Bobrovsky, Halak
Bench - Brunner, Brodie, Strachan, Khudobin, Lindback, Neuvirth, Ramo

Prospects - Calvert, Forsberg, Etem, Namestinikov, Kreider, Cundari

looking at your team and being a stamkos owner in a keeper league, you don't have any pieces that would entice me to trade stammer. Backstrom maybe is a starting point but beyond that there is nothing of significant value stamkos wise. now with that being said, if you do pull off a deal, you will have fleeced him huge no matter how you slice it.

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Team Habitants

C - Tavares, Stamkos
LW - Hall, Ryan
RW - Seguin
D - Doughty, Pietrangelo
G - Price
F - Crosby


Team St. Louis Blues

C - Tavares, Toews, Plekanec, Turris
LW - Benn, EKane, Hall
RW - Neal, Seguin, PKane, Purcell
D - Shattenkirk, Myers, Carlson, Salo, Girardi
G - Lehtonen, Howard, Nabokov

St. L Farm Team

F - Ma Granlund, Jenner, Galchenyuk, Collberg, Bowman, Hartikainen, Laughton
D - Brodin, Klefbom, B Smith, Larsson
G - Bachman, Poulin

Like I mentioned before, If I were to give up Stammer for anyone on his team it'd be for a top keeper and backstrom. Because Stamkos is worth that much.
I'd want Rinne and Backstrom and nothing less.

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Keeper League: Drop four players after each year
G A P +/- PIM PPP GWG W GAA SV% SHO

Centers: Getzlaf, Stamkos, Tavares, Read (C/RW), Grigorenko, Teravainen, Toffoli

Left Wingers: Neal (LW/RW), Ovechkin, Lucic, Clowe (LW/RW), Franzen (LW/RW), Conacher

Right Wingers: Perry, Kessel, Downie, Seguin, Atkinson

Defense: Letang, P.K. Subban, Dion Phaneuf, Byfuglien, Tyson Barrie, Paul Martin
Goalies: Fleury, Smith, Bishop, Rask, Harding, Fasth

If it were me, I'm not sure I'd trade Stammer for even Backstrom + Rinne to be honest... I'd ask for more.

I agree...if I own Stamkos, I start with Backstrom + Rinne and then look for a young stud or a high pick and maybe both to see if the other owner is serious or just trying to lead me by the nose...

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$250 Cap (+3 0-9; +4 10-19; +5 >20)
WW = $20

F: Ovechkin(53), Hall (23), Couture(29), Benn(10), Galchenyuk(1), Duchene (10), Ribeiro(1), Tlusty(20), Pacioretty (15), Berglund(1), Roy(1), Tarasenko(20)

D: OEL(4), Shattenkirk(5), Phaneuf(1), Timonen(20), Doughty(16), Kindl(20)

G: Miller(45), Bobrovsky(20), Price(20)

G, A, +/-, PPG, PPA, GWG, SHG, W, GAA, SV%, SO

I agree. In fact, I'd demand more, and in my league, I'd get more too. I'd say an offer I got for Stammer once before but I know guys from my league are on this site...don't want to throw another GM under the bus lol

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Stamkos is the most valuable player to own in a keeper league in my view, more valuable than Crosby, Giroux, Malkin and others. He's only 22 and already a superstar in the NHL, I'm not sure I'd ever deal him because he's such a special player.

He's already won two Maurice Richard trophies and he'll have a shot at that award every single season, if he can stay healthy.

Best of luck with the deal, keep us posted.

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It's a close trade... closer than most make it seem.

It's a 2-for-2 deal.
We have to consider the 2nd player:

Case 1: 2nd Player is Waiver-Wire-End-of-Redraft Forward
There are 11 teams x 12F = 132F.
Last year's #132F in the NHL scored 42pts.
I call this the Waiver-Wire-Forward (WWF).

95pt Stamkos is +53pts on the WWF.
42pt WWF added in. (Because you have to grab this guy at the end of draft, assumed).

80pt Rick Nash (IMO) is a +38pts on the WWF.
65pt Jeff Skinner (IMO) is a +23pts on the WWF.

Stamkos + WWF = 137pts
Nash + Skinner = 145pts
In this case, slight edge to Nash/Skinner side.
But this is for a post-draft case.

As "keeper value" goes, you have to look at that.

Case 2: 2nd Player in deal = Your promoted Keeper#12 for future years.
Perhaps this is a 55pt forward?

In that case,
Stamkos (95pts) + NewKeeper (55pts) = 150pts.
Nash (80pts) + Skinner (65pts) = 145pts.

Now the Stamkos-side is ahead.


In summary:
Usually in 2-for-1 trades, the team getting the best player wins.
It's often NOT because of the best player involved... so much as it is the fact that it is EASY to upgrade on the 2nd player that goes along with the Stamkos.
Here, eventually you will find a 12th keeper that is better (or WAY better) than a 55pt forward. And that is why the Stamkos-side comes out on top.