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Old 10-23-2012, 01:31 PM
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yup the goaltending is key and you're lookin good there. should be a very competitive team.
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I may be in the minority but I think you are going to struggle this year. You may win 4 out 5 of your goaltending cats every week but those 8 offensive cats are going to be really hard for you to win. Offense wins in H2H and you just dont have the fire power. I would try trading 2 of your dmen to get a couple of 70pt forwards.
This is a phenomenon which I find interesting, and which I feel I've been learning the hard way. I went into my first two seasons with the same thought that because the two goalies accounted for many cats while 10 skaters accounted for only a few more that emphasizing goalies was the key to success. I now agree more with DerekReese and Penguin that this isn't true.

The problem is that there seems to be more variance in the goalie stats, especially stats like W, GAA, SV%, and SO. I just tried to go into my league's stats from last season but apparently CBS does not have old weekly stats available. In any case, greater variance is what you'd expect if a stat is coming from far fewer players. All it takes is one of your two goalies to get shelled and two out of three cats (in my league's case) are gone regardless if your two goalies are superior to the other team's. With a bigger sample size the better goalies will likely come out ahead, but head to head isn't so much about the long term. A top goalie in save percentage will probably have fewer shellings than a meiocre one, but part of their elite status usually comes from the fact that the good weeks are much better than the good weeks of the weaker tender. But beating some teams by 50% while losing to others in other weeks by a few percent doesn't make a difference in H2H: a cat is a cat.

This is compounded by the fact that much of the season depends on the playoffs. You only need to do well enough to make the playoffs, and then you need some luck. Cats with more variance will depend more on that luck, so having stronger offensive cats would give you a better shot at #1 than being weaker at offense but stronger in net. Strength in net might give you a better shot at being in the top half of your league (but see above), but the difference between top three or four and winning it all is less likely to be due to strength in goal.

Another factor that has converted me to this way of thinking has been that goaltending is more amenable to grabbing a goalie off the wire (or having one from a late pick available) to ride a hot streak. One week of strong stats from a third tier goalie (and all that takes is an injury to the starter, a favorable schedule, a surge of confidence) can make him valuable, and you only need him to be valuable for a week. This is especially true with ratio cats, which can be fantastic even with only one or two starts.

I know many will object to this strategy, and I know there are prima facie arguments against it. However, after my (albeit limited) experience of the last few years, I will need convincing evidence to pull me back to the goalie-focus camp.

P.S. I think this would be a much stronger post with some data for me to lean on, and if anyone knows where I can get such I'll be happy to try to improve it.
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:33 PM
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Thanks for all the replies. Much appreciated.

Guess it gets back to my opening remarks. Light on offense and heavy on D and G.
Thing is I drafted 9th out of the 10 teams. Snake draft but by the time I drafted, the top offensive superstars were gone.

I figure I will hang onto my G due to the potential of injuries. Have to play 2 every week out of my 3 G.

I will likely try to package a good D and decent F for a top F. Likely need to add 2 more top F.
I will see how it goes.
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Have to play 2 every week out of my 3 G.
Oh darn... it's a "weekly start" league?
Ugh - your team isn't as strong as I thought then.
(Because a team with two #1 goalies could be just as strong as a team with three #1 goalies.)

You are going to have a lot of wasted defensive talent on your bench.

How many teams make the H2H playoffs in your league?
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