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Old 01-28-2013, 10:47 AM
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I've watched a few games and he has been pretty bad. Granted, the Leafs goalies have been letting in some soft ones, but his defensive play has been horrible.

When you lose 5-2 (against the Rangers) and you go -4 there is something wrong.
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I've watched a few games and he has been pretty bad. Granted, the Leafs goalies have been letting in some soft ones, but his defensive play has been horrible.

When you lose 5-2 (against the Rangers) and you go -4 there is something wrong.
He was matched up against Richards-Nash-Gaborik, and he's out there with Kostka or Liles. Ya he's going to be a minus.
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He was matched up against Richards-Nash-Gaborik, and he's out there with Kostka or Liles. Ya he's going to be a minus.
Also, when you play 55 minutes a game, you'll probably be out there for every goal against.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:18 PM
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Yeah, I can see that to some degree the table is set for him to take a beating on the +/- side. Would be nice to see it offset with some offensive production though.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:29 PM
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I could rant endlessly about how inherently flawed Phaneuf is, but I would just get too angry.
So I'll just sum it up with 2 things to keep my stress level down.

1. He's overrated (and has been for years).
2. He's being overplayed.

That's a recipe for failure. And for a nasty + / -.

p.s. The irony in breaking Lupul's arm is priceless, considering Phaneuf misses the net 99 times out of 100. But when a valuable teammate is standing in front of the net, HEY NO PROBLEM COACH - HEAD DOWN, SLAPPER ON NET, ARM HEIGHT. Boom.

Yes. Yes I do hate Phaneuf.
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:30 PM
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Phaneuf logs huge minutes, kills penalties, is on the man advatage, is a leader etc.

What more do we expect out of him??

We expect him to do all that but....a lot better.

As eyemissgilmour said, he is overated.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:23 AM
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At least its not as bad as paying Pronger for the next SEVEN years!
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