Hey Guys,

Looking for help on an offer. He really wants Perry and OEL, he has sent Sharp, Goligoski and Wideman. I don't think this is enough as I am giving up the two best players IMO.

With Subban not signed and Elliott not playing, I am now relying on an unsigned Subban and Robidas. I could use the D help but is this worth it.

He does have Giroux so not sure if substituting Giroux for Sharp would be fair. I think that OEL's upside IMO is worth Goli and Wideman.

Thoughts?

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2012-13 Champs

14 Team Keeper League
Start 9F, 6D, 1G, 10 Bench - Keep 16
G-1, A-1, PIM-0.2, GWG-1 W-2, SO-3, OTL-1

Starters
F: H Sedin, Backstrom, Kovalchuk, Perry, Callahan, Parise, M Koivu, M Richards, St. Louis

D: Byfuglien, Subban, Shattenkirk, OEL, Robidas, J. Johnson

G: Lundqvist

IR: Ward, Pitkanen

Bench:
F: Dupuis, Zajac, Brassard, Zuccarello, Shore, Backlund, Killorn
D: Hillen
G: Fasth, Emery, Bryzgalov, Nabokov

I would keep what you have. It is NOT worth it. And I definitely see him NOT parting with Giroux for those players. I don't think you have a match either way. If you keep forcing it, one of you will end up being a BIG loser. Sometimes the best deal is NO DEAL.

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League: Yahoo 20 Team Dynasty, H2H (4C, 8W, 6D, 1G)
Cats: +/-, FOW, A, G, GWG, PPP, SHP, SOG, S, SPct, W, GAA

C: Kopitar,Nyquist,J.Staal,Strome
W: Atkinson,Benn,Brunner,Huberdeau
Iginla,Kessel,Seguin,Selanne
D: Beaulieu,DeKeyser,Despres,D.Hamilton,Leopold,Salo
G: M.A.Fleury
Bench: B.Bennett,B.Gordon,Petrovic,Stalberg - J.Bernier, J.Howard
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Shalunov,Stransky
Clendening,Deslauriers,Gauthier-Leduc,J.Morrow,R.Murphy,Postma,Reilly -- P.Bartosak,N.Lundstrom,J.Olkinuora,A.Wilcox

That offer is AWFUL. You have the 2 best players in that deal by a long shot. Obviously, adding Giroux makes it a lot better, but, your trade partner probably doesn't want to go there. With PIMs being part of your stats, Perry should light it up this year.

Good Luck!

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12 -Team Yahoo, Points Pool, Keeper (Since 1995): G(1), A(1), PPG(1), SHG(1) GWG(1), W(2), SHO(3). Protect 13 each season.

C (4): Crosby, Roy, Stepan, O'Reilly
LW (4): Benn, Pacioretty, Umberger, Burrows
RW (4): Perry, Iginla, Atkinson, S. Gagner
F (1): Little
D (4): Boyle, Schultz, Keith, OEL
G (1): Schneider

Bench: (RW) Kassian (LW) Hagelin (D) Karlsson, Wiercioch (G) Hiller

Perfect answers...exactly my train of thought. In a win now mode I think the Giroux, Goli and Wideman offer is pretty decent return but other than that I don't see a deal being reached...thanks for the reiteration.

Rep

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2012-13 Champs

14 Team Keeper League
Start 9F, 6D, 1G, 10 Bench - Keep 16
G-1, A-1, PIM-0.2, GWG-1 W-2, SO-3, OTL-1

Starters
F: H Sedin, Backstrom, Kovalchuk, Perry, Callahan, Parise, M Koivu, M Richards, St. Louis

D: Byfuglien, Subban, Shattenkirk, OEL, Robidas, J. Johnson

G: Lundqvist

IR: Ward, Pitkanen

Bench:
F: Dupuis, Zajac, Brassard, Zuccarello, Shore, Backlund, Killorn
D: Hillen
G: Fasth, Emery, Bryzgalov, Nabokov

He changed the deal to:

Sharp, Goligoski and Kaberle for my Zajac and OEL

I think Goli and OEL are close fantasy wise and Sharp is a pretty good upgrade over Zajac.

Am I crazy to not accept this or am I overvaluing OEL that much?

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2012-13 Champs

14 Team Keeper League
Start 9F, 6D, 1G, 10 Bench - Keep 16
G-1, A-1, PIM-0.2, GWG-1 W-2, SO-3, OTL-1

Starters
F: H Sedin, Backstrom, Kovalchuk, Perry, Callahan, Parise, M Koivu, M Richards, St. Louis

D: Byfuglien, Subban, Shattenkirk, OEL, Robidas, J. Johnson

G: Lundqvist

IR: Ward, Pitkanen

Bench:
F: Dupuis, Zajac, Brassard, Zuccarello, Shore, Backlund, Killorn
D: Hillen
G: Fasth, Emery, Bryzgalov, Nabokov

I wonder how much OEL will be limited as long as Yandle is still there. Being points only (pretty much) I would think Goligoski is a good replacement. I could even see Goligoski outpoint OEL in the short term. Long-term who knows, but Goligoski is the #1 D in Dallas so if he's a consistent 40+ producer then I wouldn't complain. Sharp over Zajac is a solid upgrade as well.

Personally, I would tell him to remove Kaberle as you'd have to drop someone unnecessarily and just make it: Sharp/Goligoski for Zajac/OEL. But you know how much you like OEL so up to you - just trying to give an unbiased opinion.

Thanks Horrorfan...rep to all so far. Was thinking Kaberle could fill the Subban spot until/if he signs

Any other thoughts on this?

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2012-13 Champs

14 Team Keeper League
Start 9F, 6D, 1G, 10 Bench - Keep 16
G-1, A-1, PIM-0.2, GWG-1 W-2, SO-3, OTL-1

Starters
F: H Sedin, Backstrom, Kovalchuk, Perry, Callahan, Parise, M Koivu, M Richards, St. Louis

D: Byfuglien, Subban, Shattenkirk, OEL, Robidas, J. Johnson

G: Lundqvist

IR: Ward, Pitkanen

Bench:
F: Dupuis, Zajac, Brassard, Zuccarello, Shore, Backlund, Killorn
D: Hillen
G: Fasth, Emery, Bryzgalov, Nabokov