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Old 12-07-2012, 09:39 PM
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Is it a fair trade in this league setting?

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Not sure what categories your league has, but it's safe to say that Enstrom holds more value, I'd say.
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Not sure what categories your league has, but it's safe to say that Enstrom holds more value, I'd say.
By how much? if you own Enstrom and is looking for F upgrade, what additional value (throw a name out there) would you want?
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I'm hoping for a Stastny bounceback, but I'm with CascadeFilly here -- Enstrom is considerably more valuable.

The additional name would depend on your roster I suppose. Hard to make suggestions with so little information.

Basically, Enstrom is still a top tier d-man. He's been good for 50 points in the past, puts up some PIM, and PPP.
Stastny has been middling the last couple years.
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F: Sidney Crosby, Milan Lucic, Evander Kane, Mikko Koivu, Paul Stastny, Joffrey Lupul, Kris Versteeg, Kyle Okposo, Chris Kunitz, Cody Hodgson, Mikhail Grabovski, Steve Downie, Jiri Hudler, Marcus Johansson, Martin Hanzal, Craig Smith, Brian Gionta

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Are you looking to make a fair offer? Or was this offered to you?

If this was offered, and you own Stastny, take it quickly.

If you're looking to make a fair offer on him, and this is your team, it'd depend on the other guy's team. Does he have depth at D? Is he weak at forward? Who would he drop to make room if it was a 2-for-1? Too many questions to be clear.
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So the line up for both team are:

My team:

F: Sidney Crosby, Milan Lucic, Evander Kane, Mikko Koivu, Paul Stastny, Joffrey Lupul, Kris Versteeg, Kyle Okposo, Chris Kunitz, Cody Hodgson, Mikhail Grabovski, Steve Downie, Jiri Hudler, Marcus Johansson, Martin Hanzal, Craig Smith, Brian Gionta

D: Kyle Quincey, Marek Zidlicky, Tom Gilbert, Tyson Barrie, David Savard

G: Ilya Bryzgalov, Kari Lehtonen, Semyon Varlamov

TRazzy's team:

Team #2

F - Hall, Landeskog, Pavelski, Wheeler, Ennis, Desharnais, B Schenn, O'Reilly, Nyquist, Bozak, Zibanejad, Boedker, Eakin, K Palmieri, Josefson, Coyle

D - Karlsson, Edler, Enstrom, Goligoski, Leddy, Hedman

G - Quick Khudobin Greiss


What would be a fair trade for Enstrom?
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I think Stastny for Enstrom is pretty darn fair actually.

As long as one team needs a defenseman and the other one needs a forward, couldn't be more even than that IMO.
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I think Stastny for Enstrom is pretty darn fair actually.

As long as one team needs a defenseman and the other one needs a forward, couldn't be more even than that IMO.
My only issue is that I wont have a def and there are no good ones on the wire. Offensive def are in demand with our league size and settings. 16 teams, start 6 def.
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My only issue is that I wont have a def and there are no good ones on the wire. Offensive def are in demand with our league size and settings. 16 teams, start 6 def.
Well then try a 2 for 2 deal to keep the balance if you are willing to deal him and are interested in Stastny. If not, then say no thanks.

Generally speaking this is a reasonable deal (whether you argue one side or another), so now the main work should be between you guys to see if you can find a fit that meets both your needs. Everyone values players differently so it comes down to your own perceived value.

I think these negotiations should now go offline and if there's a possible deal in place then either/both of you could come back on here and update the situation for feedback. Until then we'd be guessing.
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