Neither side appears happy with anything and nothing new has come out of the whole mediation. Both sides are still too far apart and no progress towards a resolution has come from the meetings.

That being said, apparently Bettman has asked Fehr and PA for an owner-player only meeting. No Bettman or Fehr involved. They are considering the proposal.

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/sta...76936396701696

That could get interesting.

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G-Rask, Halak, Schneider

Everything else had been unsuccessful so far, so this seems like a fine idea. At this point, there is very little reason not to try it. I'd think Fehr will take it to the membership and it will proceed.

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Maybe the two sides did reach an agreement, and they are opting to further paint Fehr and Bettman as the villains by allowing it to get "resolved" in an owner-player only meeting.

A guy can dream, right?

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It's because the owners can't stand Fehr and the players can't stand Bettman. Neither side is willing to bridge the gap when the proposal is coming from either man.

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That sums it up perfectly for me too.

I went from sadness, to hope, to apathy, to anger, to apathy, right now back on anger.

Best quote I have heard about this "meeting" comes from our very own Dobber on twitter.

https://twitter.com/DobberHockey/sta...89424819441664

"Guys who negotiate billion-$ deals 4 a living want meeting w guys who play hockey to discuss a billion $ deal. Like taking candy from a baby"

No wonder Bettman proposed this meeting.

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G-Rask, Halak, Schneider

[QUOTE=STONE.;1041597]Maybe the two sides did reach an agreement, and they are opting to further paint Fehr and Bettman as the villains by allowing it to get "resolved" in an owner-player only meeting.

A guy can dream, right?[/QUOTE


This thing is really starting to sound like the '04-'05 lock out. Different issues, but its really looking just like it. Same tactics. Same crap.

This was a dumb idea from the begining. The owners aren't going to let some guy tell them what they should or shouldn't do. They are just too arrogant for that. This was just a PR move and the fans and players know it. Yadda, yadda yadda.

I really thought this would of been settled by the end of October, but I under estimated the owners. Its their way or no way. This looks like it could go a while yet.

Smart move by Bettman. Let's remember that the previous CBA was basically negotiated by players behind the back of their union leader so obviously Bettman is seeking a similar path right now. If and when PA declines the request, it's still one PR point for Bettman.

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