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Old 11-13-2012, 08:27 AM
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To be honest I don't think he relies on anybody but himself. He runs the offence and controls the play. If Apezza were to get hurt, he's just elevate somebody else like Turris
Spezzas the only one who wins a majority of his faceoffs, including on pp. I'd like Turris to become a great 2nd line C but he hasn't proven it yet.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.h...ffPercentageAl

About a third of their points came on pp, 28 for EK and 24 for Spez. Next closest were Michalek 15 and Alfie/Gonchar 14 ppp. Power play will suck if one of the guys is out.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.h...scoringLeaders

Karlsson needs someone to get FOW and pass him the puck.

Spezza needs someone to give outlet passes, and set up from the point.

The replacement options are not great.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:48 AM
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Spezzas the only one who wins a majority of his faceoffs, including on pp. I'd like Turris to become a great 2nd line C but he hasn't proven it yet.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.h...ffPercentageAl

About a third of their points came on pp, 28 for EK and 24 for Spez. Next closest were Michalek 15 and Alfie/Gonchar 14 ppp. Power play will suck if one of the guys is out.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.h...scoringLeaders

Karlsson needs someone to get FOW and pass him the puck.

Spezza needs someone to give outlet passes, and set up from the point.

The replacement options are not great.
I just don't think he'd suffer too much because he literally controls the play himself, and when he doesn't get the puck off a FOW or whatnot, he goes and steals it himself. The point about Turris was that he would elevate his play and make him and other players better in Spezza's absence. Turris was great in that one game Spezza missed, getting 4 points against NYI, so we're not sure how he would fare in a larger chunk of games without Spezza (knock on wood).

I was predicting a drop in points from Karlsson this year, though, and I do agree that his points would drop without Spezza, just not a 20 point difference.

But I don't really want to argue my point too much because I don't want to even think about Spezza going down with an injury
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:51 AM
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Karlsson is like Housley - if the forwards take a dip he will be relied on even more to produce offense. From a fantasy-perspective, only two things could stifle the kid's production:

1. Injury, and adapting his game to protect against them

2. A shift in coaching where he's tasked with improving his defensive play at all costs (aka the Caps scenario)

Other than that, he's like one of those windup toys where you pull the string and just watch it go.
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I'd peg Karlsson for 60-62pts in an upcoming full year.
Without Spezza, I'd say 52-55pts (so a 7-8pt downgrade).
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Regardless of how much Spezza plays I would keep Karlsson over Seguin.
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