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Old 11-30-2012, 01:07 PM
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I don't think you should regret this deal at all.

I don't see any reason to doubt this deal.
My thoughts exactly. I went to check the peripherals as well.

To reiterate what bondon said:
Looking at last years numbers, you basically give up about 100 hits (10 fantasy points).

Seeing as how goals = assists, Callahan in a year you think he may have done VERY WELL, is a VERY LOW year for Getzlaf. Say Callahan stays at 55 pts next year, and Getzlaf bumps to 70 (easily), you're already winning by 5 pts.

The only other side that favours Callahan is SHG/A, and GWG. But GWG isn't very consistent, so to expect 9 from him is a lot. And then if you think he scores fewer goals, it reduces the GWG/SHG numbers even more.

You win
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:22 PM
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I also think you won this deal. And it's not close. Kudos Mr. Bruneau!
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:53 PM
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good deal. maybe a wash but id put money on getz.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:45 PM
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Being in a contract year, the biggest question mark is whether or not Getz plays in Anaheim going forward. If there's no season, he's one of the biggest FAs out there.

Regardless, he'll be a 1C wherever he goes methinks -- I think you'll be good to go. He could end up with better linemates.

Worse case scenario: Perry leaves as a FA, Selanne retires, and Getz is stuck lining up with youngsters that are a few years from maturity in a massive rebuild while Callahan takes off with Richards, Gabby and Nash in the Big Apple.
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I would have to say that the other fellow was probably a drink or two ahead of you in the rye department. Taking Getz to the bank.
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Being in a contract year, the biggest question mark is whether or not Getz plays in Anaheim going forward. If there's no season, he's one of the biggest FAs out there.

Regardless, he'll be a 1C wherever he goes methinks -- I think you'll be good to go. He could end up with better linemates.

Worse case scenario: Perry leaves as a FA, Selanne retires, and Getz is stuck lining up with youngsters that are a few years from maturity in a massive rebuild while Callahan takes off with Richards, Gabby and Nash in the Big Apple.
The Ducks have a pretty young set of talented prospects Etem, Palmieri, DSP, Holland, Karlsson, Friberg... so even if they re-tool, they might actually not be too bad.

On the other end of the scale you have Cally who will always be stuck behind Richards, Gabby and Nash, so at best, he's really only going to be the Rangers 4th best scorer, and you don't really see very many 4th best scorers on a team register high point totals, so he's going to be limited on the point front.

Easily Getz for me.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:44 PM
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Great move for you. While I do like Callahan quite a bit, he's not in the same league as Getzlaf. There's really not a reason to dislike that deal.
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Callahan is a warrior's warrior...I'd take him on my NHL team anyday over Getzlaf, its not even close.

However, this is fantasy hockey...so Getzlaf is who I'm taking, despite his current perceived lower value.
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C: Stamkos, Tavares, Getzlaf, Shaw
L: Kovy, Neal, Patches, Ericksson, M Foligno
R: Wheeler, Simmonds, Voracek, Cole
D: Chara, Del Zotto, Boyle, Yandle, Campbell, Kulikov, Nikitin
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Before I give my opinion, let's look at the numbers to highlight each player's value in such a format. Firstly, I'll use the last couple years to compare as recent production is important and it more accurately shows Callahan's value. Then I'll see the effect a strong offensive season from Getzlaf will have on his value.

2011-12:

Getzlaf: 104 fantasy points in 82 games = 1.26 fpts/game
Callahan: 123 fantasy points in 76 games = 1.62 fpts/game

2010-11:

Getzlaf: 124 fantasy points in 67 games = 1.85 fpts/game
Callahan: 89 fantasy points in 60 games = 1.48 fpts/game

And for comparison's sake, let's look at Getzlaf's career offensive season 08/09:

Getzlaf: 143 fantasy points in 81 games = 1.77 fpts/game

The reason why his career offensive season is less productive (on a per game basis) in this format than 2010/11 is due to more games played, a lower plus/minus and less hits/blocked shots. Though you could argue that in a points league (is it?) that having him play more games will be more helpful, as it's cumulative production over the course of a season.

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If you feel that Getzlaf can get back towards his production in 2010/11, then I feel it's a good move since he's already proven that he can reach that next level. Does Callahan have more offensive upside? I'm not sure. Though his peripheral strength does keep him in the general vicinity, and it's not as one-sided as potentially first thought when comparing the two.

The other side of the coin is the need for your squad. You have good RW depth even though you don't have an elite player there. And you'd be relying on Shaw as your third starting C which you needed an upgrade. So, in terms of team needs, I feel that Getzlaf will be a greater help.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:54 PM
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With your categories i believe you win this trade by a lot. Scoring is heavily weighted for you and getz will almost certainly outscore cally on a yearly basis.
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