We finally have this set up (I think/ hope). Goalie Post now offers a one-week trial membership. That’s free. Now you will see what I’ve been preaching to you – that if you’re in a fantasy league with daily transactions, this will be the best 83 cents per month you’ve ever spent. Now head over to GP and get your free one week trial. It’s the same login/ password as you use for this site. If there is a problem, please flip me an email

 

Brandon Yip expects to be back in the Colorado lineup this week, but Peter Mueller is now targetting Friday for a return. Nothing before then.

 

My THN column from yesterday is here. My Puck Daddy column from yesterday is here.

 

We’re at the point now where we will be hearing about this prior to each game, and given that he is the No.1 player on my Keeper League List I will be sharing the news (and non-news) with you as well. Sidney Crosby is not playing Tuesday. Next game/update is Thursday against Tampa Bay… and then Saturday against Florida. The next time the Pens have two days off in a row is November 27 and 28. They play every second day until then.

 

With two points last night, Erik Cole is now on pace to… still fall short of 40 this year. But he played a strong game and saw a season high 19:28, so that’s a promising trend.

 

I don’t believe PK Subban is suffering from a sophomore jinx. Last year he had seven points in his first 17 games. This year he has six points in his first 17 games. This team is not scoring a lot of goals, so relatively speaking, his percentage of points versus the team offense is probably where it should be. I’m not saying that six points is not disappointing. No, he should have 10 at this stage. But I am not discouraged with him in the least.

 

Derek Roy has 10 points in his last six games. Luke Adam has two in his last six (and is minus-5). When one line rolls, the others slow down.

 

Jhnoas Enroth remains undefeated. Besides being 6-0-0, he is also fourth in the league in GAA and SP.

 

Tyler Myers was a healthy scratch. This is a direct result of unnecessary spending – the team did not need Ville Leino (they still don’t) nor Christian Ehrhoff. They could have saved that money and have the same record – or better – at this point. Then they could spend the money via a trade and get better players. Nothing against Ehrhoff, who has been fine. But his presence has rolled by the ice time for other people and the domino effect there is a decline in their play. And now Myers is in the press box.

 

In his third game back from injury, Chris Pronger finally got back on the board – three times. One assist was on the power play. Claude Giroux, the next superstar, also tallied three points.

 

Scott Hartnell has just one point in his last five games, so the ‘sell high’ window has closed. You know what you’re getting with this guy, so dreaming that he would get 80 points was just that – a dream.

 

Matt Read saw 15:22 and that was enough time for him to tally two more points. Another game like that and he’s back in the Calder conversation that he left when he sustained that UBI a couple weeks ago.

 

The Hurricanes are losing. Often. So if you’re going to lose anyway, why not give the new guys some love? What’s the worst that could happen – you lose by more? And at best, you may find yourself a gem. I mean really, Zach Boychuk seeing 3:54 and Zac Dalpe at 2:41… that’s not even worth the plane tickets you bought for them. Keep them in the minors, or call them up and use them properly. To be fair, Boychuk saw 15 first-line minutes the game prior. But either send him back down, or play him.

 

With two more points last night, Tim Stapleton now has four in his last four games. His ice time is still hovers around the 10-minute mark (eight last night), but the Jets seem to be starting to lean on him more. You need a temporary guy as a depth center, look no further.

 

Looks like MA Bergeron has hit the wall finally. Just a point in his last four, although his plus/minus is hanging in there.

 

This TSN story here bugs me. Two reasons – Brendan Shanahan going into the Hall of Fame first ballot is not “set in stone”. He’s a strong contender, but he doesn’t deserve to be in the same sentence as Joe Sakic. Joe Sakic going in right away is “set in stone”. Shanahan is not. In fact, if you go by my criteria that I floated last year – the one that would eliminate a good 50% of the fellas already in there – then Shanahan wouldn’t get in at all. My idea – in a given two-year span, was he ever a Top 3 forward in the NHL, or a Top 2 defenseman, or a Top 2 goaltender? If yes, he’s in. If not, he’s not. Forget the stats. This is all that should be on the ballot. And Shanahan may have ranked as high as fifth best among forwards at his peak, he never cracked the Top 3. Sakic did. Pavel Bure did. Alex Mogilny did. Eric Lindros did. Mats Sundin did.

 

And that brings me to my second complaint about the piece – Alexander Mogilny wasn’t mentioned. You know, if that guy played only 200 games in the league and got 20 points, he still should get HHOF consideration for what he did for hockey. The barriers he broke. But he scored 76 goals in one season and 473 in his career.

 

The Kings have recalled Andrei Loktionov. He has 14 points in 17 games to lead Manchester.

 

It looks like Ilya Kovalchuk will be back soon. Of course, I didn’t dress him this week. He could play tonight.

 

Boston prospect Ryan Spooner had 10 points in three OHL games last week and was named player of the week. He’ll get a long look in the fall, but his making the team would depend on how much room they will have for him. Traditionally, they don’t seem to leave more than one spot open each year.

 

The Isles have recalled Nino Niederreiter. He had four points in six AHL games and was a plus-4. Very excited to see how he does, and I’m excited to activate him for Friday.

 

As long as Mark Letestu lines up with Ryan Johansen and Vinny Prospal, he has some fantasy value. For the time being, the line is really clicking and now that Jeff Carter is back, the team can actually roll a couple of decent lines.

 

It looks like Slava Voynov will be recalled, as Alec Martinez is out of the lineup with an injury. I kept Voynov on my reserve in one league, because I knew he would be back – and I know he produces – and I did not want to re-bid for him. So this is beauty news for me. Voynov will get points, mark it!

 

Tim Connolly is back in practice and while he won’t be playing Tuesday (probably), he could be back for the following contest.

 

Milan Hejduk has been named captain of the Avalanche. What that says to me is that he plans to stick around for another year beyond this one. Otherwise, why would he agree to be captain of a team for four months?

 

The movie GOON - viewer discretion, lots of F-bombs...

 

 

Fun PP to watch last night:

 

 


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barneyg said:

cabro57
Sundin? "in a given two-year span, was he ever a Top 3 forward in the NHL, or a Top 2 defenseman, or a Top 2 goaltender? If yes, he’s in. If not, he’s not. Forget the stats. This is all that should be on the ballot. And Shanahan may have ranked as high as fifth best among forwards at his peak, he never cracked the Top 3. Sakic did. Pavel Bure did. Alex Mogilny did. Eric Lindros did. Mats Sundin did."

in which 2-year span was Sundin a top 3 forward in the NHL? other than his international pedigree, his HHOF hopes hinge on the same stuff as Shanahan's -- longevity and consistency.
November 15, 2011
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Puckhead said:

Puckhead
Dobbers' rules for HHOF... I couldn't agree more with the hall needing to seriously tighten the criteria that qualifies for entry. I never understood why a single player who was truly great, doesn't get consideration because he never won a cup...WTF? The BIG problem is who from the selection committee will step up and make these suggestions for stricter entry criteria? You cant' undo the obvious disastrous decisions to grant entry to those already named in previous posts, and that is the very reason the problem will continue. If you allow Federko and Gillies, how can you say no to Shanahan and Recchi? It hurts the credibility of the HHOF in my eyes, and badly waters down the honour that those who should be there feel, when they see, for all intents and purposes, those who really shouldn't be there getting in.
November 15, 2011
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Jaxx said:

Jaxx
hard and fast rules...... .. points taken Dobbs, but you say you don't want hard and fast rules yet it is a hard and fast rule to have to be a top 3 forward (top 2 D/G) over a span of two years. What if you were the 3rd best D for many years (say, an elite talent) but just happened to fall short each year being third best while a lidstrom and bourque were playing - your hard and fast rule of top 3/top 2 would not allow hall entry. its semantics really -we both desire harder entry rules so that the clark gillies and bernie federkos of this world are not hall members. i think we agree the goal is to make it tougher to gain entry.
November 15, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... BGJ - not about points. With being the go-to guy, he'll be a two-way star and never scratched

Larry - If Bieksa was in Myers' class, he would have been a first round pick. Not comparable

Jaxx - Screw longevity, stats and hardware. Keep it simple. One question - was he ever a Top 3 fwd, Top 2 dman or Top 2 goalie for two full years. If so, he goes on your ballot. My Hall of Fame would have players on it that you would put on Team Earth in a game against Team Mars for control of the universe. So yeah, Eric Lindros in his prime would be on that team. Mike Gartner in his prime would not. Alex Mogilny in his prime would. Joey Mullen in his prime would not. The world has too many hard/fast rules because the people demand it. But that is not the proper way - it is only the fair way. But my HOF would screw fairness and do it properly.

Take my Prospects Rankings, for example. I don't tell you rules like "prospect until he turns 24" or "prospect until he plays 100 NHL games". No, forget that. I'll keep him as a prospect until I'm convince he will never be sent back down. My judgment, no rules. That's how I roll baby!

November 15, 2011
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Jaxx said:

Jaxx
only elite players should get into HOF.... ... but you have to define "elite". you might be limiting yourself with your terms Dobbs. there are other factors that need to be considered. an elite player can be defined in several ways - tops in your position over a period of years as you say, but longevity AND stats together, hardware, significance/pioneership to the game and more are all factors that should be incorporated into defining an elite player, and eventual HOF candidacy.
November 15, 2011
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Larry said:

Rollie1967
... If it was strictly icetime related for Myers- then wtf is wrong with Bieksa? He's had plenty of time and he still looks lost. That big contract must be messing with his mind (as did his last one). Although I can see the loss of confidence being an issue with Myers- he was the 'go to guy', too much to soon maybe? I didnt mind the Ehrhoff signing as much as Leino- who was way overpaid.
November 15, 2011
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BGJ said:

bletchley
... Myers was scratched because he's been brutal. Not because of salaries..etc. And he'll never be a big time point producer in the NHL.
November 15, 2011
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littleranger said:

littleranger
Shanahan I would have to say Shanahan should be a lock. How many players have scored over 30 goals in three different decades? He won three cups and was a big part in all of them even though he never led those teams. He was the leading scorer in the playoffs for the '97 Wings and 2nd to Brett Hull in 2002. 11th all time in regular season goals, 4th in regular season game winning goals and for the fantasy hockey fan - 6 40+goal with 100+pims.

Also, the guy was born to be a leader. Although I don't think he ever wore the 'C', their are many moments where he put his body on the line to send a message to the team. This moment sticks out in my mind. After Brashear took continous runs at Jagr and the rest of the Rangers, Shanahan took exception and fought one of the toughest fighters ever in the game - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0CdDOKwVLw
November 15, 2011
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Curtis Curve said:

tcescon
Myers Have to agree w/Reddawg on the Myers debate. Would go so far as to say it is not about his point production, or lack of. His being a healthy scratch should have come at this time last year, but as Reddawg points out, the depth was not there to make that move. I think Myers' lack of physicality led to his benching more than anything. It has to drive Sabres management absolutely bonkers to see a player of his size not use it to punish the other team. This was glaring on the Lucic-Miller incident. At some point Myers has to flick that Incredible Hulk switch inside of him and show all of the other teams that he can bring it when needed. Granted he was not the only one to do nothing when an immediate response was necessary, but this may have been the tipping point that finally brought the decision to sit him for a game. Hopefully the message has been received and Myers realizes what he needs to bring to the table as a well-compensated defenceman in the league.
November 15, 2011
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mike hess said:

SharkMeat
Meyers Meyers is all of 22 years old. He took a big hit mentally when they went out and got Erhoff....his play reflects that lack of confidence. The coach and organization needed to have a conversation with him before they did the deed. Now they have to help him get through the funk and back on track.

Ya, I dropped Leino in my keeper league as he adds zero value even in the long term. I picked up Adam and just hope he stays on track.
November 15, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
Reddawg Guys like Myers flourish when you lean on him. He would be a different player if he were the go-to guy with full PP and SH minutes. Different mindset, different confidence level.

"he just hasn't shown that he deserves the premium icetime or that he can be trusted in key situations this season, at all"

That is a true statement sir. But he 'would' show this, as per my note above, in a more positive circumstance. Trust me, I see this a lot.
November 15, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... Chad - no he wouldn't. In his best season, I still would not have considered him even seventh or eighth among forwards in the world. He would need to be Top 3. Like I said, half the people in the HOF would be out - and it would be difficult to get in. Cheechoo - not even close under my criteria. Reward a flash in the pan? I have yet to see a flash in the pan ever be considered a Top 3 fwd, a Top 2 dman or a Top 2 goalie for two full years. Impossible.
November 15, 2011
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Jeremy said:

onthebeach96
So that's why you were always... so optimistic about Crosby, Dobber, because you have him on your club. In my pool he went 4th round so I hope he's not back until next month at the earliest!

I'm going to the Leafs game tonight, so I'm hoping for a big rebound vs what could be the last visit by the Coyotes in Toronto, let's hope the team moves in the offseason!
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Chad Burly said:

2sticks1puck
HOF so you want to reward a flash in the pan?
Cheechoo would be in your HOF if you use that criteria.
November 15, 2011
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Reddawg said:

Reddawg
Myers Dobber - I still fully disagree that more minutes for Myers would have had a positive effect on anything, he just hasn't shown that he deserves the premium icetime or that he can be trusted in key situations this season, at all. You say that three more minutes per game would result in double the points, and it's possible you're correct on that but my contention is that with 3 more minutes per game his already poor rating of -3 could conceivably double and the Sabres potentially lose a couple more games. He truly has been THAT bad lately...just looks lost in the woods out there no matter who his defensive partner is (and he's been tried with everyone...Regehr, Ehrhoff, Sekera, Leopold...the only one I can't recall him skating with is Gragnani, who frankly has been another source of migraines for Sabres fans this season.

You're probably correct that Myers wouldn't have been sat down if not for the Ehrhoff signing, but you're correct because in that scenario Buffalo wouldn't have Weber to fall back on for support when someone needs a sitdown, he'd already be in the lineup instead of the pressbox on a nightly basis. It's a lot easier to sit a starter down when he needs it with Weber waiting in the wings than it would otherwise be if Morrison or one of the rookies was the #7 defenseman. It's far better to have that kind of blueline depth so you have the flexibility to send a message without hurting your team's chances at winning.
November 15, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... Reddawg - he needed to be sat down. There is no disputing that. But if Ehrhoff did not sign with the Sabres, Myers would have another three minutes of ice time per game and another two minutes of PP time per game. If he had that extra time, then he would have eight points right now instead of four. Suddenly, the need to sit him wouldn't be so glaring. Domino effect. I am 100% certain that Myers would not need to be sat down had they not signed Ehrhoff. 100%. I can't be proven right and I can't be proven wrong, but I wholeheartedly believe in this domino effect and 50 NHL scouts and GMs throwing me in a room for 10 hours and going over slide presentations about why I'm wrong will not convince me that I'm wrong.
November 15, 2011
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Reddawg said:

Reddawg
Myers Tyler Myers as a healthy scratch had everything to do with Myers needing to be sat down, nothing to do with Ehrhoff or Leino at all. I've watched every Sabres game this season and Myers has been absolutely atrocious in most of them...poor decision making, not skating, not hitting, certainly not scoring...and what's worse is that he was dragging whomever was partnered with him in any given game down with him in the process.

It's not a coincidence that Sekera had his best defensive game of the season last night skating with Weber while Myers watched from the press box...he deserved to sit and badly needed to sit and get that wakeup call. Sabres spending had absolutely nothing to do with it.
November 15, 2011
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