backes

 

The addition of peripheral stats, such as HITs and BS, has become more prevalent amongst fantasy hockey pools this season. Although there are plenty of similarities between drafting in a standard settings league (G, A, +/-, PIMs, PPP, SOG, W, SV%, GAA and SO) and a league that includes HITs and BS, the addition of two extra stats could really throw a curveball in how you approach the draft.

 

If you look at the Hockey Pool Geek settings, Daniel Sedin leads the way with a HPG rating of 72 in standard Yahoo! leagues, but only has a HPG rating of 42 in leagues that have those two extra stats. On the opposite end of the spectrum, Dustin Brown maintains a HPG rating of 40 in leagues that record HITs and BS, but only a plus six rating in standard Yahoo! leagues.

 

The easiest way to gain an edge over your competition is to go and have a play around with the settings over at Hockey Pool Geek, it’ll pretty much give you all of the information you’ll need to know for your drafts. Another fantastic tool, which is a “must-have” for poolies, is the new draft guru. You can enter the players you’ve drafted and it’ll churn out all of the numbers to help point in the direction of your weakest areas, so you can adjust on the fly or post-draft. Definitely something that’s worth investing some time and money in.

 

I’ve also included the draft position that the player was taken in as part of the fairly popular Rocky Horror Roto Show, which features a few of the more popular members of the DobberHockey forums to give you some insight into where these players are relatively drafted.

 

Onto the key information.

 

Center


↑ Mike Richards – Los Angeles

Yahoo! Rank: 43

RHRS: 52nd (House of 1000 Orpiks) (4T2)

Generally speaking, the defense position is where you’re going to garner the most BS from, but if you can managed to squeeze in a few from some of your offensive slots, then that just makes your team that much better. Richards has ranked 27th, first, eleventh, and sixth in the league amongst all centermen in the BS department since 2007. Getting an extra 70-odd BS could certainly tip you over the edge against your competition, so keep his name at the back of your mind come draft day.

 

↑Mike Fisher – C – Nashville

Yahoo! Rank: 195

RHRS: 239th (Silence of the Stams) (Dyzfunctioned)

Fisher is still dealing with complications from an off-season shoulder injury, which kind of devalues him in the early part of the season. If you can look beyond that fact, he could be a great asset to your fantasy squad. Fisher finished last campaign ranked first and 16th amongst all centermen in terms of BS and Hits. There isn’t a lot of competition up the middle for Fisher in Nashville, so he should receive plenty of ice-time to repeat, if not better his peripheral numbers from last year.

 

↓ Pavel Datsyuk – C – Detroit

Yahoo! Rank: 13

RHRS: 12th (Briere Witch Project) (smackdown)

If peripheral stats are what you’re after then you might want to stay away from Datsyuk, as you won’t get very much from him at all. Although he did finish on a point-per-game pace, it’s the 0.27 PIM, 0.96 Hits and 0.36 BS per game numbers that you really need to worry about. Considering he has an average draft position of 13.9, that’s a really high price to pay for someone that won’t help you out in three of the eight offensive categories.

 

Right Wing


↑ Dustin Brown – Los Angeles

Yahoo! Rank: 93

RHRS: 61st (Briere Witch Project) (smackdown)

As mentioned earlier in the column, Brown is pretty much king if your league has an emphasis on the peripheral stats. He has ranked second for three consecutive seasons amongst all right wingers in the Hits department. If you tack on the fact that you’re pretty much going to garner a sure-fire 50+ points, 50+ PIM in addition to 220+ SOG. That’s someone who could be considered a “must own” in those types of pools.

 

↑ David Backes - St. Louis

Yahoo! Rank: 60

RHRS: 56th (A.Nittyville Horror) (Shoeless)

This is what I wrote about Backes this time last season, “Backes is beginning to develop into a poor man’s version of Morrow. His Hits, PIM, and SOG potentially mirror fairly closely to what Morrow may produce, but his points outlook probably lags a few steps behind. Last season, he really took a big step forward in establishing himself as an “all situations” type of player, but I want to see a repeat performance before I dive head first into the Backes pool. If your pool incorporates Hits and BS as a category, it’s probably very low risk to gamble on Backes, but just keep your expectations in check.”


He proved me wrong last season, so I’m ready to dive head first into the Backes pool heading into this campaign. One thing to err on the side of caution about is that the Blues are much deeper this year offensively than last, so once again you might want to keep the point projections in check (around 50) if you do decide to snag Backes at the draft table.

 

↑ Shane Doan – Phoenix


Yahoo! Rank: 149

RHRS: 113th (A.Nittyville Horror) (Shoeless)

Being in Phoenix and with their primary focus on utilizing a strong defensive system, it’s not hard for poolies to forget Doan’s name in standard Yahoo! leagues. But if you are in a “peripheral” league, then you must slide him up the draft charts. Doan’s 172 Hits last season ranked him ninth amongst all right wingers in the entire league. He also has an HPG two-year rating of ninth overall in leagues that counts Hits and BS, add that to the fact that he’ll chip in with 55-60 points that makes him a fantasy goldmine for peripheral stats as a late-round pick.

 

↑ Cal Clutterbuck – Minnesota


Yahoo! Rank: 214

RHRS: 173rd (Maaaaa-chete) (Yours Truly)

It’s been three years running that Clutterbuck has walked away with the NHL Hits title, so you’ll pretty much know exactly why you’re getting him for your fantasy squad. The top-six (Dany Heatley, Mikko Koivu, Devin Setoguchi, Matt Cullen, Guillaume Latendresse, and P.M. Bouchard) in Minny is fairly locked, so Clutterbuck won’t get optimal scoring opportunities, but if you lower your expectations to 30-35 points and 150 SOG, that’ll still prove to be plenty useful in many “peripheral” leagues.

 

↓ Patrick Kane – Chicago


Yahoo! Rank: 22

RHRS: 39th (Phaneufenstein) (kluu)

Kane might have the ability to put up point-per-game numbers, but when it comes down to the peripheral game (PIM, Hits and BS) he definitely slips a few notches. Since Kane has entered the NHL back in 2007, he has averaged just 35.5 PIM, 17.3 Hits and 12.5 BS per season, which has equated to an HPG rating of just 12th overall, this is a far cry compared to the fourth overall rating that he currently owns in standard Yahoo! leagues.

 

Left Wing


↑Ryane Clowe – San Jose

Yahoo! Rank: 82

RHRS: 58th (Phaneufenstein) (kluu)

I was quite surprised to see Clowe’s name that high on HPG’s list of LWers, but statistically it does make a lot of sense. Based on two-year averages which include the peripheral stats, he ranks fourth overall amongst all LW in the league. With Devin Setoguchi and Heatley moved on, Clowe should garner a bit more of the vacated ice-time, which should in turn help increase his point totals. Keep in mind that he’ll still be stuck behind Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau, Joe Pavelski and Martin Havlat, so keep your expectations in check but the decent peripherals plus 50-60 points makes him plenty valuable in “peripheral leagues”.

 

↑Brendan Morrow – Dallas

Yahoo! Rank: 87

RHRS: 94th (DrFrankNFurter) (JamesGlenCooper)

Morrow’s getting up there in age, but he’s still plenty useful in fantasy pools by averaging 16 PPP, 182 SOG, 73 PIM and 228 BS during the last two seasons. With Brad Richards moving to New York, there will be a stronger emphasis for Morrow to step up to the plate to produce better numbers offensively. His HPG rating of plus 21 is certainly something to take note of.

 

↑Jamie Benn – Dallas

Yahoo! Rank: 160

RHRS: 76th (House of 1000 Orpiks) (4T2)

A second Stars’ player to take note of is Benn. He has career averages of 0.64 PIM, 2.05 HITs, 0.53 BS and 2.38 SOG per contest. Look for him to possibly slot in as the second line center, and help fill the void left behind by Richards, which would then make him eligible for the extremely valuable dual-eligibility in Yahoo! leagues. Benn’s definitely much more valuable than the average 161.4 drafted player that poolies have been selecting him at.

 

↑Cody McLeod – Colorado

Yahoo! Rank: 546

RHRS: 260th (Maaaaa-chete) (Yours Truly)

A dark horse candidate that I love to prop up is McLeod because of how under-the-radar he really is. We all know the “goon types” like Derek Dorsett, Jared Boll, George Parros, and Colton Orr, but the problem with those guys is, besides the PIMs, they’re generally pretty useless on the other fronts, so it ends up being you burning up a roster slot just for a lone stat. You aren’t going to get huge offensive numbers from McLeod, but you might get a line of 15 points, 170 PIM, 170 Hits, 25 BS, and 100 SOG, which would help in multiple fronts compared to owning a one trick pony, like the four players listed above. If you’re looking for a late-round flier take a gamble on McLeod.

 

↓ Henrik Zetterberg – Detroit

Yahoo! Rank: 30

RHRS: 17th (A.Nittyville Horror) (Shoeless)

Pretty much ditto to what I wrote about Kane above. Zetterberg is a great candidate to post point-per-game numbers, but when it comes down to the peripheral game (PIMs, HITs and BS) he also has to be dropped a few notches. During the last four years, Zets has averaged just 34 PIM, 42.5 Hits and 25.3 BS per season, which is a little bit better than the numbers that Kane would post, but probably still not good enough to lead you to the fantasy hockey glory land in peripheral leagues.

 

Defenseman


↑ Brent Seabrook – Chicago

Yahoo! Rank: 148

RHRS: 106th (Phaneufenstein) (kluu)

Defensemen are generally where you’re going to garner the most BS from, so it’s vitally important that you pick up strong shot blockers to help you control that department. Seabrook’s 154 BS last season ranked him 21st overall in that department and if you add in the 227 Hits, 135 SOG, 20 PPP and 47 PIM that makes him a huge across-the-board “must own” in many peripheral pools. One thing that I’d be a bit wary of was his 48 points last campaign. He’s never really been a big offensive producer and that total might have been an anomaly. Head into the season thinking 35-40 then you won’t be disappointed if he does return back to the “norm”.

 

↑ Mark Giordano – Calgary

Yahoo! Rank: 115

RHRS: 98th (Silence of the Stams) (dyzfunctioned)

Gio had a great season when he posted 43 points along with a whopping 140 Hits and 193 BS for the Flames. Now that the defensive depth charts have cleared up with the departure of Robyn Regher and Steve Staios, look for Giordano to claim some of that residual short-handed ice-time left behind. With a number one PP QB gig all locked up, Gio could be the final piece that puts your team over the edge come April.

 

↑ Stephane Robidas – Dallas

Yahoo! Rank: 275

RHRS: 188th (Maaaaa-chete) (Yours Truly)

Robidas returned back to Earth last campaign, after dominating ROTO leagues the season in 2009-10. The reason behind that was that he had full reigns as the team’s number one blue-liner. Since then, they’ve added players like Alex Goligoski and Sheldon Souray to take over the offensive duties, which should then allow Robidas to return back to the defensive role that he’s more accustomed to. His three-year averages of 71 PIM, 235.3 Hits, 140.3 BS and 153.3 SOG is pure fantasy gold. Don’t forget his name come draft day.

 

↓ Keith Yandle – Phoenix

Yahoo! Rank: 41

RHRS: 64th (Nightmare on Helm Street) (Nehithaw)

On average Yandle is being drafted as the seventh blue-liner (48th overall) in typical Yahoo! drafts. If you take into account the peripheral stats, he slides all the way down to 16th according to HPG. One of the main reasons is due to a lack of Hits and PIM. For the last two campaigns, Yandle has averaged just 34.5 Hits as well as a run-of-the-mill 56.5 PIM per season. I’d much rather pass on Yandle and snag an alternative like Dion Phaneuf or Brent Burns 35 picks later and reserve my early pick on another option.

 

 

Other Notables:


↑ C

↑ RW

↑ LW

↑ D

Ryan Getzlaf

Johan Franzen

Justin Abdelkader

Matt Greene

Martin Hanzal

Devin Setoguchi

R.J. Umberger

Shea Weber

Jarret Stoll

 

Bobby Ryan

Theo Peckham

 

 

↓ C

↓RW

↓LW

↓D

Henrik Sedin

Loui Eriksson

Daniel Sedin

Nicklas Lidstrom

Joe Thornton

Marian Hossa

Alex Tanguay

Duncan Keith

 

Justin Williams

Pavel Datsyuk

Alex Pietrangelo

 

 

There’s a couple of ways that you can go and approach drafting for a league that includes Hits and BS. One is that you can just draft how you normally draft and ignore the peripheral stats like you normally do with +/- or PPP. Or the second option is to look for players who will actively pick up those stats but at an expense of sacrificing “the best player available”. Either way you can’t really go wrong with either option, as long as you’re completely happy with the outcome.

 

Tips for leagues that include HITS and BS

Players who are generally considered “soft” players, are majorly devalued in leagues that include Hits and BS. If you really think about it statistically, you’re in the same boat if you owned a superstar combo of Nicklas Lidstrom, Pavel Datsyuk, Henrik and Daniel Sedin on a team as someone who would own Robidas, Brown, Fisher and Richards with goals and assists being offset by Hits and BS.

 

Generally speaking, the better across-the-board Hits and BS producers come from the blue-line, which means that you can save your early round picks for goalies or forwards and snag guys like Peckham, Giordano, or Sheldon Souray in the late rounds.

 

With that said, top of the class across-the-board producers like Zdeno Chara, Chris Pronger, Dion Phaneuf, Mike Green, and Seabrook could be worth over-reaching for in order to make sure that they’re on your roster and not your opponents.

 

With Hits and BS, it pretty much evens the playing field for many of the WW material and you’ll probably find that you’ll be utilizing the WW much more during the season than you would if it was a standard Yahoo! league.

 

 

My Team

Settings: 12 teams, ROTO, Settings: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, FW, Hits, BS, W, GAA, SV, and SV% Positions: C, C, C, C, LW, LW, LW, LW, RW, RW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, D, D, G, G, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, IR, IR

C- Crosby, Thornton, Stastny, Langkow, and Horcoff

LW- Kovalchuk, Elias, Lupul, McLeod, and Comeau

RW- Selanne, Jagr, Alfredsson, Clutterbuck

D- Lidstrom, Ehrhoff, Wisniewski, Schenn, Robidas, White, and Bogosian

G – Miller, Halak, and Roloson

 

 

Questions or comments? As always I’ll be ready and willing to discuss them with you in the comments section below.

 

 


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letnry said:

letnry
Dorsett Hey Ma, I like articles like this as I just started my first league with BS and HITs this year.

I do have to question you categorizing Dorsett as a goon type, one trick pony, and then recommending McLeod. I think you are severely underrating Dorsetts other abilities if that was not a mistake. Lets compare their stats from last season:
McLeod- GP: 71, G: 5, A: 5, +/-: -7, PIM: 189, HITs: 147, BS: 20, PPP: 2, SOG: 73
Dorsett- GP: 76, G: 4, A: 13, +/-: -15, PIM: 184, HITs: 195, BS: 37, PPP: 0, SOG: 112

Now what will happen this coming season is unknown, but it appears from previous seasons, that McLeod is trending downward in more categories (which could make him a good buy low I suppose), while Dorsett is trending upwards. Even given your projected stat line for McLeod this season, Dorsett was better than that last season. So it seemed odd to me to discount Dorsett as generally pretty useless on the other fronts.
September 22, 2011
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horrorfan said:

horrorfan
Re: over-reaching I do agree with you for the most part, and many times it can be the right decision. And early on it could make a difference when comparing similar players e.g. Sedin/Perry. Perry will likely give you less points, but not by much, so Perry is a good choice, unless you a dead set on a LW early (another topic altogether). You could also look at someone's idea of picking Sedin in the first and Iginla in the second. If you picked Perry, maybe you ended up with Zetterberg in the second. Who would you rather? I can see the benefits of both options, as your team is not finished after two rounds.

However, if someone had a choice between, say Hossa or Callahan, many would choose Callahan because the high number of hits, but Hossa is not a bad choice either since he has 35G/70P potential. Before his injury (yes another issue, and topic for another time) last season, Hossa was on fire and many people thought he was in for a 80+ point season (even if he slowed down a bit). However, that upside isn't there for Callahan, and a chuck of his hits can be more easily made up later in the draft, whereas a 30+ goal scorer is not as likely (I know he scored 25 goals last year, but highlighting realistic potential when healthy). I use this example since it was a decision I had to make in our draft, and I chose Hossa for the offensive upside.

In the later rounds, yes it's good to go after more guys with solid peripherals with some offensive potential, instead of pure PIM/HIT guys for example, as the amount of offensive players are limited and won't help you as much.

As mentioned, there are a lot of different strategies that can be used to develop a successful squad. Balance is very good of course, I totally agree, but it's just how much of it do you insist on and to what point do you deviate from your plan to get more offensive producers?

Good discussion.
September 21, 2011
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Ryan Ma said:

Maaaasquito
... RE: Over-reaching

Definitely... balance is probably the key in these multi-peripheral leagues. The thing is finding balance... It's like the Konopka, Boll, or Parros scenario... You might get PIMs but that's about it. So you're essentially burning 1 roster spot just for 1 stat. If you get a few across-the-board guys like Carcillo, Avery, Neil where you might not get as much PIMs, but you get a few points or SOG as well it really does help in the long run.

The point that I'm trying to make is that if you have the option of a Sedin vs a Perry or something like that, you're a bit better off getting a Perry since he helps contribute to the peripheral stuff as opposed to having to utilize another spot on your team to pick up the peripheral stats.

In my experience with peripheral stats, you kinda need a team contribution in those stats. Owning just 1 or 2 players will put you middle of the pack, but a whole team contributing to the stats will get you top 3, which is generally where you need to be for most stats in order to win a ROTO league.

But to each their own...
September 21, 2011
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horrorfan said:

horrorfan
Good piece, however... Nice writeup Ryan. However, one thing that managers need to consider is how easy it is to fill some of those peripheral categories. Of course balance is good to have, however, I would be careful not to overreach for one of those players if a (potential) high end point producer or goal scorer is still on the table.

It comes down to needs and roster balance of course, but it's easy to fall into the trap of targeting too many multiple category producers and losing sight of better offensive options still available. There are many ways of building a successful team, so keep your options open.

Just my opinion.
September 21, 2011
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Ryan Ma said:

Maaaasquito
... RE: Disservice to HPG?

These are the only statements in my article that I could find regarding the mention of HPG.

Daniel Sedin leads the way with a HPG rating of 72 in standard Yahoo! leagues, but only has a HPG rating of 42 in leagues that have those two extra stats. On the opposite end of the spectrum, Dustin Brown maintains a HPG rating of 40 in leagues that record HITs and BS, but only a plus six rating in standard Yahoo! leagues.

It's not anything new for me to say that Sedin sucks in the peripheral stats and Brown is good... Does mentioning Sedin has a HPG rating of 72 and Brown 40 really give that much info away?

He also has an HPG two-year rating of ninth overall in leagues that counts Hits and BS It's no secret that Doan is good at HITs and BS. I didn't mention the entire list, so saying he's ninth isn't giving away the farm is it?

which has equated to an HPG rating of just 12th overall, this is a far cry compared to the fourth overall rating that he currently owns in standard Yahoo! leagues Once again Kane's rating... 12th overall means squat really. He's going to be owned in fantasy leagues anyways, it's a matter of when...

I was quite surprised to see Clowe’s name that high on HPG’s list of LWers, but statistically it does make a lot of sense. Quite "high" is a pretty broad statement...

His HPG rating of plus 21 is certainly something to take note of. You don't need me to tell you that Morrow's rating increases in leagues that count HITs... me revealing the number 21 says little about the entire list of LW players.

If you take into account the peripheral stats, he slides all the way down to 16th according to HPG.
Yandle takes a tumble, if you were a smart poolie you wouldn't need HPG to tell you that Yandle isn't great peripherally...

So I mean I don't think I did HPG a disservice by posting some of my findings. In fact Paul (a owner of HPG) actually sent me an e-mail to say thanks for giving him a shout out in the article.

I understand as a paying customer you kinda want to keep the advantage over your opponents since you paid for it, but I also take quite a lot of pride in writing quality articles to help my fellow Dobberities out as well. I use many tools like FrozenPool, HPG, Yahoo! player ranker to justify my findings/reasoning. I'm not going to short change DobberNation (and prevent it from growing) just to protect the ones who are willing to pay.


September 21, 2011
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Ryan Ma said:

Maaaasquito
... RE: Correlation between BS and +/-

I don't think there is a direct correlation. I can understand why someone who is a good shot blocker could possibly have a better +/-, but +/- is a bit of an iffy stat, it's so dependent on "luck" and being on the ice at the right time.

You can look at Adam McQuaid... I mean the guy had 15 points last season, but he finished the season with a +30 rating... Same with Mike Sauer, 15 points and had a +20 rating... compare that to Alex Goligoski who had 46 points and also an +20 rating. Goligoski has 10 times the fantasy value of Sauer.

So I dunno +/- is one of those stats that I just leave alone and hope for the best during the season. It's very hard to "draft" for it.

Girardi lead the league with 236 BS, but finished with a +7 rating... Greg Zanon had 212, and finished with a -5... Giordano was third with 193 and finished with a -8. So I mean it's kinda all over the shop really.
September 21, 2011
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Ryan Ma said:

Maaaasquito
... RE: Girardi

Girardi is Lucarelli territory, but I'll throw in my 2 cents. The points might take a bit of a dive due to MDZ returning back to form, but you can't argue with the peripherals that Girardi brings, he's consistently 180+ for each HITs and BS and that won't change much. It's just the way that he plays.

I have no problem utilizing Girardi as a 4th blueliner.
September 21, 2011
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Ryan Ma said:

Maaaasquito
... RE: HPG

Trust me HPG has much more to offer than what I just wrote in this column. It's well worth the money if you've bought a subscription.

Draft guru alone is worth the money by itself.
September 21, 2011
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David said:

OceanMon
jesus what's the point of getting HPG if dobber's articles are going to spoonfeed you all the juicy information? man, i was looking forward to having all this information to myself (which I paid for) and now it is broadcast for free. awesome.
September 21, 2011
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mjlees said:

Dcon
Take it backes Please delete this article. I'm in two pools that have this type of format, one I run. And I don't think half the owner have grasped the concept yet. Your basically running up the prices of my players in the auction. I pray no one in my league follows Dobber. I have to disagree with Girardi comments though. Think Del Zotto is coming back and Girardi will have a bad year. You hear that? Leave Girardi alone. He's a bum. Spend your money on Boyle and Yandle.
September 20, 2011
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Shoeless said:

Shoeless
Gotcha Okay, gotcha on the Hits/Blocks focus. Yeah, Elias is there as well - I was disappointed in his FOW last season but I think they should take a bump with Zajac out.

In my case, I drafted to get those FOW from the wing along with otherwise production - allows some flexibility both in the draft and through the season in trading (Carter, Zetts, Laich Backes were good for 1,700 FOW last season, even Doan chips in about 75).

In terms of D guys, I have often wondered if there is a positive correlation between BS and +/- another stat we often need in this multicategory leagues.
September 20, 2011
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Ryan Ma said:

Maaaasquito
... RE: Sentium

Never thought of it that way, but you know what I mean with those abbreviations...
September 20, 2011
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Ryan Ma said:

Maaaasquito
... RE: Zetterberg

Definitely in FW leagues he's gold, adds another dimension to your team when you can get wingers that take FW as well. The thing is I only based the article with HITs and BS.

Obviously value varies from league to league, having a winger take FW is a must have in FW leagues, IMO. But if it's just HIT and BS then Zets value has to be down.

I completely agree with your list of players that carry winger eligibility and takes FW, but a player that you missed on your list, is Elias. I'd boost his value too.

I dunno about the stats but 75% seems a bit high isn't it? But you could be right.
September 20, 2011
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Ryan Ma said:

Maaaasquito
... RE: HPG

To be fair, I wrote the article on the weekend before Dobber made all those youtube clips of HPG, so I think it was just a timing thing. But it is a great tool, even if you don't want to spend money on it, so a good idea to be aware of it.
September 20, 2011
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Ryan Ma said:

Maaaasquito
... RE: Girardi

I cover the Western Teams. Tim Lucarelli covers the East, so Girardi is his territory.
September 20, 2011
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sentium said:

Dakkster
... So if PIMs is an abbreviation for Penalties In Minutes (with a randomly added s at the end) and PPP is Power Play Points (inconsistently without the randomly added s at the end), then for what is HITs an abbreviation? Oh, right... it isn't.

Just sayin'...
September 20, 2011
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Shoeless said:

Shoeless
Ahem The Rocky Horror Roto show has FOW as a category. Would you like to re-evaluate Zetterberg's value as a LW in that league? Carter? Backes? Laich? Marleau? Datsyuk? Giroux? Briere? Little? Where they are counted in a league and differentiated forward positions are in play, FOW for wingers is a valuable peripheral.

I would venture a guess that FOW are also counted in more than 75% of the leagues that also count either Hits or Blocks or both.



September 20, 2011
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Hockey Hoser said:

Hockey Hoser
HPG HPG is sure being pushed the last few days lol. Great tool and website. I can support this cause even if it's slightly borderline overkill.
September 20, 2011
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Yikes! said:

shortcuttomoncton
Dan Girardi Just Cmd-F'd this article and found no mention of Dan Girardi. In my opinion, a glaring oversight, as I feel he gets one of the biggest value boosts from the addition of blocks and hits. Sure, his ~30 points might not blow you away, but take a look at his blocks and hits numbers...!
September 20, 2011
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STONE. said:

STONE.
Names Basically, I skipped through all the info and just admired the names of teams!
A.Nittyville Horror! Nightmare on Helm Street! Briere Witch Project!

Classic!

Now I'll go back and read the actual article.
September 20, 2011
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Pengwin7 said:

Pengwin7
You are Killing Me I've got my first ever FW, HIT, BS league draft on Sunday and you have to post this article now! Bah. You basically wrote up my entire scribble sheet that says "STEAL" and "OVERVALUED".

Another gem.
Couldn't find anything here to criticize... except the timing.
September 20, 2011
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