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| Written by Ryan Ma | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Tuesday, 17 August 2010 08:37 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Following the same footsteps as last year, here’s a list of some of the Western Conference underachieving veterans from last season. Many of them underachieved or were simply injured which resulted in them churning out horrible overall numbers for 2009-10. Those low numbers could lead them to be undervalued, so make sure you make a mental note of these players and don’t fall into the trap of undervaluing them like some of your competitors might on draft day.
Teemu Selanne Ana
Lubomir Visnovsky Ana Lubo posted 45 points between the Oilers and the Ducks last season, which will probably still rank pretty high in many pre-draft lists for the upcoming season. The fact that he pretty much has the full reigns on the number one power-play QB slot locked, and that his main competition is Toni Lydman, Luca Sbisa, or a rookie named Cam Fowler, sounds like a prime opportunity to post huge numbers to me. Joffrey Lupul Ana Lupul had big expectations heading into last season, but it all became unravelled 23 games into the season when he packed it in because of a back injury. There hasn’t been a lot of information regarding his current status, which makes him a huge boom or bust candidate. If you are willing to take the gamble, you could be in for huge rewards, but I wouldn’t blame you if you were to shy away as well.
Alex Tanguay Cal
Olli Jokinen Cal
Marian Hossa Chi
Dave Bolland Chi
Milan Hejduk Col
John-Michael Liles Col
Nikita Filatov CLB
Mike Ribeiro Dal
Brendan Morrow Dal
Johan Franzen Det
Valtteri Filppula Det
Ales Hemsky Edm
Nikolai Khabibulin Edm
Justin Williams LA
Cam Barker Min
Brent Burns Min
Scottie Upshall Phx
Devin Setoguchi SJ Setoguchi had a dismal 2009-10 season as he posted only 36 points in 70 contests. Considering he spent 29.9 percent of his overall ice-time with Joe Thornton, and 42.1 percent with Joe Pavelski, it’s unacceptable that he tallied such an atrocious number. Make a mental note of his career 0.85 point-per-game numbers in the months of October/November, but also the 0.49 point-per-game numbers in the months of March/April in the back of your mind as well.
Carlo Colaiacovo Stl Colaiacovo finished with 32 points last season, which sits him right around the range where he still won’t be noticed fantasy wise. He averaged 2:58 on the PP per contest which was the same amount that Tyler Myers, Ed Jovanovski, and M.A. Bergeron received. His SOG is a bit low for my liking, but if you’re after PPP, Colo is certainly a viable option.
Notable Mentions David Jones, Brandon Yip, Anton Stralman, Niklas Kronwall, Shawn Horcoff, Sheldon Souray, Ryan Smyth, Guillaume Latendresse, Cody Franson, Ed Jovanovski, Jason Demers, Patrik Berglund and Kevin Bieksa. UFA - Marek Svatos Anyone I missed? Questions or comments? Like always I’ll be ready and willing to discuss them with you in the comments section below.
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Ryan Ma
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... hmmm maybe I should change it to underachieving players... since I put Yip and Franson too and he's pretty fresh... Good pickup swoon! |
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SWoon
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... "Western Conference underachieving veterans" Including rookie Jason Demers on your Notable Mentions list? I'm confused! |
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Ryan Ma
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... Definitely, drafts do take a lot of time and attention especially those who are after a championship. Knowledge is power and the more of it that you have the better off you're going to be. The last thing that you want is all of us paddling in the same direction and you get a very biased view on things. The more different opinions you have the more knowledge you have to base YOUR OWN judgement on. At the end of the day I can spruik anything I want, but it is you that needs to walk through the door. As long as I've opened your mind to hey be aware of this fact, I've done my job and life would be awfully boring if we all believed 100% in Dobber's suggestions... |
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mike hess
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bandaide and underachievors Ryan...thanks for the clarificaiton....There is so much to consider when making a pick; your insight very helpful. I had Connolly and Richards last year and they did well for me, so I get the concept. It is just a lot to put into a single ranking number which Dobber seems to figure out how to do; and then i need to consider your points as well. I actually penalize bandaide boys and underachievors by modifying Dobbers list with plus and minus points so I reduce the risk by taking later in the draft. |
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Ryan Ma
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... RE: Jerry If you want my list of sleepers, go and read the first article in the guide... There's a major difference between sleepers and underachievers. Sleepers are relatively unknown quantities than are poised to have a boost in production this campaign. Underachievers are players who have high upside, but due to injury, lack of chemistry, coaching benchings... produced at a lower pace than they should have last season. Obviously with everything else there is potential overlap between the two. I have 4 of them myself. Bolland, Upshall, Khabibulin and Lupul. You're missing the point of the article and considering I wrote it fairly loud and clear in the opening paragraph, I don't know how that really came about? The point of the article, is to make you aware of these underachieving players come draft day so that you don't forget them. Many sites like Yahoo base their automated draft lists on actual production from the previous season. Those of you who played on Yahoo would know exactly what I'm talking about. Last year I had the exact same concept and listed a few, if you managed to land 1 or 2 you would have gained a heads up on your league. Brad Richards, Paul Stastny, Patrick Sharp, or Visnovsky. So I'm not listing off injured players and calling them sleepers, I'm listing off guys that underachieved so that you can nab the "Brad Richards" of this year. |
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Ryan Ma
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... RE: Band-Aid Boys Mike I don't think you or a lot of people out there grasp the concept of band aid boys... I don't think Dobber means them to be a "DO NOT TOUCH" list, I think what he wants you to be is aware of the fact that they are "injury prone" and that if you are taking the leap of faith on them temper your expectations. So how I would approach it is that Havlat is a 0.83 point-per-game player... What I won't do is expect him to play a full 82 games. I might say 70 instead. So heading into the season I might project him to be a 58 point player instead of 68. What you also gotta consider is that band-aid boys are detrimental in H2H leagues because you want consistent production, in Roto leagues they can be golden. You piece together the production of 2 band-aid boys in the same roster slot and you could have one very productive slot. So treat Dobber's band-aid boy list as a "tread carefully" rather than a "red alert, red alert" |
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Gsus
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Good stuff Not to be a positive Patty, but this is some good stuff. Always helpful to keep these guys in mind and think about why their point totals ended up the way they did. Like he says, pre-rankings on point output slide them way down the list, so bargains can be had. |
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Jerry
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Weak Not to be a negative Nancy, but this article was pretty weak. List a bunch of injured guys and call them sleepers. |
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mike hess
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bandaides and upside Interesting approach, yesterday Dobber puts out the bandaide list and today you tell us not to undervalue many of them? Not sure how to approach the list other than watch camp and early games to see how they turn out. |
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