So...anything happen while I was away? Lots of new trends in the NHL, trends you saw begin a year or perhaps two years ago are really coming to the forefront now. I alluded to goaltending a week or so ago, and how teams are/will start to draft only the top goalies and sign goalies 23-27 from the NCAA or Europe. You're also seeing the UFA's traded two weeks before July 1.

 

About the Halak deal. I think it's predictable that hockey analysts and media-types who are fans of the game really come down hard on the Habs for that deal. Just look at all the radio show song spoofs of the trade. But I can understand Gauthier's reasoning. I'm not saying Montreal won the deal. But I'm saying they did as well as they could. How many goalies look great after 60 games and one solid postseason? Vesa Toskala looked like a superstar in San Jose. Ilya Bryzgalov looked like one in Anaheim... then he was great in Phoenix, and then he crapped the bed. And now, obviously, he's a star again. Just keep the ups and downs of goaltending in mind before you go all nutty. I said all season long that the Habs would never trade their golden boy and took my share of abuse for it (oh Oilers99 - where art thou now?). That stance waivered by...say ... the third round of the playoffs this year. Montreal had two RFA's to sign - Halak, who would probably give them 37 to 42 wins this year and Top 10 stats. Or Price, who in a bad year would still get them 30-35 wins at a lesser price and with the potential for more right now and in the future. They could deal Price and not get as much for him. Or they could deal Halak, take five fewer wins, and get a top prospect who is ready now (Lars Eller) for their trouble. Will Price be their starter this  year? I hope not. I really think he needs to be a 1B goalie for one more season. But he COULD be the starter if need be. The Habs saved themselves about two million bucks (because Halak's agent is a pitbull) to MAYBE win five fewer games and set themselves up better in the long term. And what if Price actually is ready? If that's the case, then he'll make Halak's playoff run look like Vesa Toskala on a three-on-zero. I understand what Montreal did and, although I probably would have traded Price - that is the easy answer and it completely contradicts the mantra "sell high". As for St. Louis, they made an awesome deal. They got their go-to No.1 guy, who will be their best goalie since Curtis Joseph. They did it by moving an impressive young future star - but they are a team full of young future stars. Eller was expendable. Good deal for both teams, but the Habs take the risk as Price could make them look like geniuses or dummies. But you have to understand the rationale.

 

Goaltender Chris Holt has signed to play with Dynamo of the KHL next season.

 

It begins - my fifth DobberHockey Fantasy Guide. My template is all set up and I'm ready to plow through some predictions! I've also started re-reading my ramblings from October. Just preliminary stuff over the next two weeks before I really dive into it in July.

 

Happy Father's Day gents! I think my Father's Day will be an IOU - the wife had a bachelorette party last night. She's still sleeping, while I try to fight off my daughter Avery's busy hands to write this. Maybe next Sunday?

 


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Dobber said:

Dobber
... After that playoff - Halak was a "sell high". If you pay attention to the buzz, just on this site alone, the consensus seems to be that Halak is the better goalie to own in RL and in fantasy. So from that fact alone, logic would dictate that Price does not get a Lars Eller in a trade.
And Price has no leverage. It's all about arbitration rights.

Garrett - size has nothing to do with it. Investment is what it's all about. The Habs have a lot invested in Price based on where he was drafted and how soon he was brought in. If you draft a player first overall in your keeper league this year and he gets 10 points in 80 games and you can only protect 12 players, is he one of them? You would consider keeping him - at least consider it. But what if that same player you drafted in the 10th round instead, and he gets 10 points in 80 games? No way you keep him. Not even considered. That's a fantasy example of how the mindset would work in RL.

June 20, 2010
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Mabus said:

mabus
... ...and by UFA, I mean RFA. If Price would have netted more than Halak in a trade, most of your "pros" arguments above are actually "cons"

June 20, 2010
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Mabus said:

mabus
... Please expand on why you think Price would net less in a trade than Halak did? Most of the talk recently was that Price could still net some top flight talent. That's certainly why people were saying not to trade Halak at the deadline - he would only net a 1st or 2nd round pick and Price would get more.

Plus, why make a trade before one of the two is signed. Now all they have done is given more bargaining power to a UFA.

I think even educated Montreal fans are justifiably pissed. I'd laugh at them, but those of us here in Calgary also haven't seen a competent GM for a while.

Mabus
June 20, 2010
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Garrett Cull said:

GRCull
... The Habs kept Price because of his size . Like most teams thinking in this non thinking era , the Habs think if they have a goalie that fills most of the net , that is the main requirement . Price has shown nothing in terms of consistency and you're saying that it will only mean 5 fewer victories for Montreal ??????? And in the next breath you are saying he needs another year as a backup ???? Time will tell , but if Price doesn't show a little more maturity on and off the ice , Montreal may rue the day they dealt Halak , no matter if Eller becomes a superstar . Just remember , goaltending is still the name of the game .
June 20, 2010
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mike hess said:

SharkMeat
Goalie Trends I agree with your comment on UFA's for goalie...It is simply a matter or risk and cost; building youw own takes time and money, with the salary cap you have movement and availability increasing.
June 20, 2010
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Dobber said:

Dobber
fzusher Your second paragraph I think strongly aligns with where my head is at. I agree with that.
June 20, 2010
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fzusher said:

fzusher
goalies trends I agree with you on Halak-Price and the deal, but I disagree with the prediction about a general switch to UFA goalies. The reality is that there is a small group of teams that do well attracting FAs from college and Europe, and a lot of teams that don't. TOR, PHI, NYR, CHI, ANA, SJS, and with college FAs also MIN and OTT come to mind. It's because UFAs have different sets of considerations that they weight - and because they have the choice. Some care about location (local boy Jarod Palmer in MIN, for example), about being in a city where they or their family want to live, about the chances of getting a roster spot quicker (Petterson, Brunnstrom), the coaches you'd work with, teams' willingness to sign you in March and keep you with the team so that one ELC year is eaten up, etc. With maximum monetary terms set in the CBA, those are the things goalie FAs will decide on, and a lot of teams can't compete with the above teams on this score.

So what I think will happen is that some teams will almost entirely stop drafting goalies, but others will stick with that, though with two changes: other than the ones who are clearly shining already, goalies will go later in the draft, when decisions are very much made on the gut instinct of the scouting personnel, and goalies will be drafted at a later age, 20 instead of 18.
June 20, 2010
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