Horton

 

“We have a trade to announce...” are the only words any hockey fan ever wishes to hear out of Gary Bettman’s mouth. There may be no more exciting off-ice situation in the NHL than the draft day trade announcement.

 

In 2008, the Coyotes acquired All-Star center Olli Jokinen from Florida for Keith Ballard and spare parts. The Flames added Mike Cammalleri from Los Angeles. Washington dealt Steve Eminger to the Flyers for a pick they would use that same day on John Carlson. In 2009, the Flyers added Chris Pronger minutes before the first round kicked off. It seems like there is anticipation and hype every year as the draft approaches, but from everything we have heard from those with strong connections in the hockey world, this could be the busiest draft ever in terms of wheeling and dealing.

 

There is no shortage of star players available at the draft this year – Mike Ribeiro, Tomas Kaberle, and Sheldon Souray to name a few. There are several premier soon-to-be-free agents whose rights may be up for grabs as well – Ilya Kovalchuk, Anton Volchenkov, Dan Hamhuis, Patrick Marleau, Paul Martin... the list goes on.

 

I asked the DobberHockey community to share their trade ideas a few days ago (check the topic out here). I borrowed a few of the ideas shared there and added them to some of my own.

 

To Minnesota: Nathan Horton

To Florida: Brent Burns

 

(As suggested by Renegade)


Why?

Nathan Horton is as good as gone from the Panthers if you are one to read into rumours. The Panthers would love to add a dynamic top-four defenseman like Burns, and Horton would bring size and skill to a very underwhelming forward group in Minnesota. Both players have teased us with some flashes of brilliance (Burns in particular with a monster 2007-08 season). Perhaps a fresh start will be exactly what the doctor ordered for both.

 

Fantasy Impact?


Burns needs to get back on track after a few injury-plagued seasons. He has 45-50 point upside provided he sees enough power play time. In Florida, he would become the best offensive defenseman, while in Minnesota he has to compete with Cam Barker and Marek Zidlicky for ice time. Minnesota isn’t blessed with a wealth of offensive talent, but Horton could still see a spike in production because of the scenery change alone. He has the size and skill to be a star, but so far in his career he hasn’t shown enough intensity or battle on a consistent basis to get there.

 

To Columbus: Jason Spezza, Brian Lee

To Ottawa: 4th overall pick, Cody Goloubef, Derrick Brassard

 

Why?


Columbus has cap space and a clear need for a top line center. Jason Spezza is unhappy in Ottawa and would probably welcome playing in a less hockey-crazed market. Brassard has the upside to one day replace Spezza on Ottawa’s top line, and he is still on his entry level contract. The Blue Jackets probably wouldn’t move both Brassard and their 2010 first round pick in a trade for Spezza, but in my estimation they could get away with doing it if they really wanted to. Goloubef is a solid prospect and would add to Ottawa’s defensive depth on the farm.

 

Fantasy Impact?


Rick Nash owners would rejoice. With Spezza, Nash’s upside jumps up 10-15 points. Spezza would remain a 75-85 point player with the upside for (a lot) more, health permitting. Brassard would see lots of offensive minutes in Ottawa, and would probably skate on a line with the likes of Daniel Alfredsson and Milan Michalek.

 

To Toronto: David Clarkson and Matt Halischuk

To New Jersey: Tomas Kaberle

 

Why?


The New Jersey Devils have a glaring need for a puck moving defenseman. They traded away Johnny Oduya at the trade deadline, and all signs point to Paul Martin leaving as a free agent in a couple of weeks. Toronto is very thin up front, and Clarkson would bring 20+ goal potential in addition to a wealth of grit, belligerence, and truculence. Halischuk is not going to be a star at the NHL level but he should be a serviceable player for a long time. Toronto fans may read this and be disappointed with the return, but without an extension Kaberle’s trade value isn’t as high as many believe it to be. Leaf fans would fall in love with Clarkson after a shift or two.

 

Fantasy Impact?


In New Jersey, Kaberle would play with the likes of Zach Parise, Travis Zajac, and Patrik Elias on the top power play unit. A return to the 60 point mark would be a very reasonable projection for him. Clarkson would probably slide in on the second line in Toronto, while Halischuk would compete for a spot on one of the bottom two lines in training camp.

 

To Montreal: Ryane Clowe, Douglas Murray

To San Jose: Carey Price, Roman Hamrlik

 

Why?


San Jose gets a young goalie to build around. They also get a strong veteran presence to help replace the void left by Rob Blake on the back end. Montreal dumps Hamrlik’s contract and they add a solid top six winger in Clowe and a very steady defensive presence in Murray. Clowe would be great alongside Mike Cammalleri and Tomas Plekanec – in addition to being large and physical, he has more skill than given credit for.

 

Fantasy Impact?


Price would immediately become one of the best goalies to own in any league format on the Sharks. He hasn’t shown the ability to be a starting goalie over the course of a full season, but to be fair he has never been given that kind of opportunity yet. Clowe’s value wouldn’t change all that much in Montreal.

 

Do you have an idea/rumour/proposal to contribute? Post it here or on the message board, as I'll be running a few more draft day trade articles over the next 10 days or so.



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Larry said:

Rollie1967
... i wouldnt trade Savard for Bourque and Stajan even if they threw in a 3rd round pick!
Price for Penner wont work if Khabby comes back- too much money on a backup on a team without alot of space. Montreal does need the size upfront, but Penners lack of speed and a big contract is a scary proposition.
June 16, 2010
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Rossi said:

Dean Youngblood
Upside? Angus, you mention that Rick Nash's UPSIDE jumps up 10-15 points if Spezza arrives in Columbus but I thought UPSIDE is a figure that wasn't suppose to move. I thought Upside is the most a player is suppose to ever achieve (in perfect situation, perfect linemates, etc. etc.).

Don't you mean to use the word "Potential" or something like that?
June 15, 2010
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Chris said:

5hole
Versteeg 1)Stevie Y trades 2nd rnd pick for Versteeg.
2)I could see Carter for Price straight up or mtrl could send him to Edm for Penner!
3)The Horton to Minn for Burns makes sense as well. Minn could scoop someone off FA to fill the gap on the backend and they could bring up Noreau.
4) Mark Savard and 3rd rnd pick to Calgary for Rene Bourque and Stajan! Iginla get's his number 1 Center and Boston get's a Bonafide goal scorer in Bourque and a 3rd line center allowing Bergeron and Krecji to take over the 1a/1b roll's.
June 15, 2010
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Nick Campano said:

2nd ward legend
Trade proposal - draft day The trade I propose for draft day is as follows:

To Montreal: Jeff Carter
To Philly: Carey Price & Andrei Kostitsyn

Montreal needs a BIG center and Carter fits the bill perfectly. He would also give them a legit goal scorer to go with mostly all assists center S Gomez. They could then play a little hard ball with Plekanec and if he decides to walk via the UFA route they could resign D Moore as their 3rd line center and the use the extra money for help elsewhere. The salaries in this deal are basically a wash for 2010-11. Philly gets a yound #1 with a ton of potential & a winger with offensive potential to play in their top 6 forwards.
June 15, 2010
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Randall said:

The Hockey Hitman
long shots at best... I'd be shocked if Toronto dealt Kaberle for 2 grinders regardless of his contract status.

The SJ/Mon trade idea makes zero sense of the Habs they don't even get a goaltender back in return, and thats not enough value for Price IMO. And I beg to differ w/ Sharks goalie situation because they have plenty of young goalies like Greiss and Stalock, not to mention Henrik Karlsson who the organization is pretty high on.

FLA/MIN proposal makes no sense for Minnesota IMO. Team isn't deep enough on the backend to deal Burns without getting a d-man back.

The Ottawa/Columbus deal makes sense, although the swap of d-men in the deal seems unnecessary.
June 14, 2010 | url
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B.Hendy said:

WildHendy
Brassard not on entry anymore Brassard is not on an entry level contract next year...2.8 mill,not sure of the cap-hit
June 14, 2010
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Larry said:

Rollie1967
... Im thinking Burke would jump at a Burns for Kaberle offer or even a Horton (neither going to happen unless TML sends something else)

I dont see Hamrlik's contract being that bad that they give up Price for Clowe/Murray, would be an interesting move-being that Nabby would have to move (and would SJ get another more experienced backup? or stick with Greiss?)

I cant say i see much of the NYI's but fzusher- outside of Okposo and maybe Bailey I cant see the others contracts being a major issue. Getting UFA's to sign in long island with out overpaying them will be an issue.
June 14, 2010
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87Flyer said:

87Flyer
Carter to Columbus With no room for Carter down the middle and 1 year left on his contract now is the time to send him packing. Why not send him to Columbus for Voracek and the 4th overall pick. If possible add a bit more and somehow get a 5th/6th d man added but no idea how to squeeze that in there.

It would be much nicer to see us land Mason but that's not likely so why not get Voracek to play on the top line with Giroux and Gagne. Then make a HUGE splash at the podium and scoop us up Campbell. Sure it's a bit early but after Nashville screwed us for Pickard not to long ago it's better to grab him while he's there. Pull this off and things would look like

Gagne-Giroux-Voracek
Hartnell-Briere-Leino
JVR-Richards-Carcillo
Powe-Betts-Lappierre

Finally we would have a tender in the system worth his weight in gold. That is of course if he is indeed as talented as believed. Only drawback to this is Carter is a shooter and it's not likely that Nash needs that type of center.
June 13, 2010
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Jason said:

GoalieCrease
Carey Price in San Jose I would love to see this train happen. Carey Price has had the short end of the stick in Montreal. It really wasn't a good place for him to start out on a weaker team. He needs to build his confidence, and really, there's no point in resigning Nabokov.
June 13, 2010 | url
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James Smith said:

jeamcasmith99
NJ-TOR Proposal = Fair Jeff, thanks for being level-headed with respect to your NJ-TOR trade proposal. It is fair and realistic. As a neutral, non-Leaf hating Avs fan, I get annoyed seeing Leaf fans constantly overrate Kaberle's trade value. Take Rad64 below for example who somehow believes Kaberle has more trade value than Burns (there's a reason Burns got invited by Team Canada to the Olympics camp last summer - young, big, 6'5 d-men with upside who can skate and put up numbers don't grow on trees) and proposing a Horton for Kaberle swap instead. You're simply not going to get a young, big power forward like Horton who's locked up for 3 years in return for one year of an aging Kaberle who while undoubtedly a great PMD who can run a PP well is also soft and has never had the kind of defensive shutdown ability that playoff teams value much more in a d-man.
June 13, 2010
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fzusher said:

fzusher
Avs - Hawks I thought of this while writing the other post.

The Avs are another team with desperate need to add salary to meet the floor, and have already stated they won't dip into free agency because they don't want to handcuff themselves long term with many of their young core becoming RFAs over the next 3 years. That hole will get bigger if they trade Liles and/or trade/buyout Preissing.

They also are somewhat thin on the wing, especially in the physical dimension now that Tucker will be gone. Chicago's Versteeg fits that bill. And the Avs have about 257,973 promising offensive Ds in the system, a definite area of weakness in Chicago. I can totally see a deal here.

Cap logic also suggests they could be dealing with Calgary, but I don't see much of a fit there, and they are divisional rivals.

I can also see the Avs offering Preissing to someone who wants to dump a bigger one-year salary, though i'd be very surprised if there are takers here.
June 13, 2010
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fzusher said:

fzusher
Don't forget the Isles They will be in desperate need to add salary to meet the cap floor, but likely not through free-agency because (a) they are not a favored destination for FAs and (b) they only need a short-term fix, as they'll need to leave room to exgtend Bailey, Okposo, Comeau, Gervais, Hillen, and if he makes the team Joensuu in 2011, Tavares in 2012, De Haan, Hamonic, and possibly their 5th overall from this draft in 2013. They therefore should be looking to acquire a heavy but not too long contract or two by trade, though perhaps after July 1st rather than at the draft.

Their biggest need is probably a shutdown D who can lead and mentor their young core. Robyn Regehr would have been my candidate from among cap-strapped teams, but I doubt he waives his NMC to spend the next three years on the Isle. I can see them looking into the cheapness of Flames' Cory Sarich / Steve Staios and Hawks' Brent Sopel, but they won't give their 5th overall for any of them, and aren't really that deep in offensive talent in the N or the A to give more than a prospect and/or pick (Joensuu is probably their best trade chip) unless it's for someone of Regehr quality.

Personally I also think they could use another top-9 center, but that can be gotten via FA with a bit of overpayment.

At any rate, an Isles trade or two are pretty much expected. Isles trades with Flames or Hawks won't surprise me in the least.
June 13, 2010
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Rad64 said:

Rad64
... How about Horton for Kaberle? I don't see Tallon moving Horton for Burns. Florida wouldn't be getting enough in return.
June 13, 2010
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Canuckk said:

Canuckk
... How about this one:

To Florida: Rights to Ilya Kovalchuk
To New Jersey: Alexander Salak, 3rd round pick

Chances are Kovalchuk won't re-sign in New Jersey as he wasn't a great fit there and the Devils lack the cap space to sign him. And Tallon will be looking to, as he has shown in the past, make a major move to revitalize the franchise. Kovalchuk could very well be the answer to that. They have the cap space to sign Kovalchuk to a huge contract, provided ownership gives Tallon the green light to do so, and would land the franchise player they so desperately need. Meanwhile, the Devils receive a goalie prospect who could back up Brodeur as soon as next season and quite possibly eventually replace him (since the Devils lack a decent goalie prospect as of now). And the third round pick completes it. Keep in mind that Bouwmeester's rights were worth only the rights to Leopold and a 3rd rounder, so I think this is totally reasonable. The biggest issues here are that I'm not sure Kovalchuk would want to go back to the Southeast again after all those painful years in Atlanta, and that Florida ownership may not be willing to spend the money they'll need to sign Kovalchuk. But hey, they haven't made the playoffs in 10 years so perhaps a drastic move like this, combined with that proposed Horton trade, could be exactly what the owners want to revitalize and reshape this team.
June 13, 2010
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DuklaNation said:

DuklaNation
... I just hope there are a lot of trades. Many teams need to make moves. And it can be mutually beneficial. Plus, some prospects appear to be stonewalled on current teams.
June 13, 2010
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