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Sorry for the brief hiatus the last couple of weeks, I’ve been roughing it in Europe and enjoying some time off. Anyways, back this week with a ripper of an article. At the end of last season I wrote a similar column which was very well received by my fellow Dobberites, so I figured I’d go back to the well once again this off-season. It’s a great add-on to give you a decent recap of what went on this past fantasy season and what to expect for the upcoming season especially if you are trying to get a head start on your competition next campaign.
First, let's clear up some general misconceptions about projections:
2) Team depth is vitally important; a player playing on the third line isn’t going to be a candidate for 80 points, or even 60 according to the numbers below. Pay attention to the potential line combos released as part of the pre-season Dobber guide.
3) Salary plays a large role in ice-time distribution, and generally speaking if a team is forking out six million or higher in salary for a player, they are going to receive optimal ice-time. In the salary cap era of the NHL, teams will be very hard-pressed to stick a player making bucket-loads of cash on a checking line. o A perfect example of this is what the Oilers did with Shawn Horcoff. They didn’t green light Sam Gagner or Gilbert Brule, but continued to give Horcoff 19:25 a contest desp ite him tallying a miserable minus 29 rating.
4) Ice-time plays a huge factor in point production.
5) The Western Conference teams are slightly more offensive than the Eastern Conference teams.
6) Beware of expecting mind-blowing numbers from rookies.
7) Be wary of the “sophomore slump”
8) Be wary of the “Magical Fourth Year”.
In the summer of last season Russ and I wrote our pieces on potential “magical fourth year” candidates and were fairly spot on, so stay tuned for that in the upcoming weeks. If you want a recap read it here.
9) Take a note of a player’s past history.
10) Beware of band-aid boys
11) Be realistic with your projections, everyone in the league has 100 point potential. It’s whether there’s a one percent chance or an 85 percent chance.
Now onto the real mathematical stuff. Keep in mind these are general average numbers, there may be certain exceptions to each scenario.
Centers
Left Wings
Right Wings
*Small sample size of only four players.
Defenseman
Goalies I didn’t know how to tier the goalies without getting 50 billion complaints about how I did it, so I guess I’ll just state some quick points.
Summation Tables
So you’re probably sitting there wondering, there’s a whole bunch of numbers, what does it all mean? Here’s how I would use the numbers...
Let’s take a look at Stephen Weiss’ stats. He appeared in 80 games, while averaging 19:59 in ice-time and accumulating 180 SOG. He’s garnering top-line ice-time in FLA and he’s a centerman. According to the stats, he’s slightly off of top-10 ice-time and only in the range of a 55-point C in terms of SOG. On the plus side, he’s ranks behind only Nathan Horton and David Booth in terms of PP ice-time, which should add a few more points to his projection. It’d be a safe bet that he finishes around a 60-65 point mark next season.
Let’s try a second example to make sure that we’re all on the same page. Kyle Okposo finished the season with an ice-time average of 20:32 per contest while tallying 249 SOG. Those numbers for a RW should have translated into 76-point producer not the 56 point that he actually tallied. Another positive is that he also averaged a team-high 4:17 in PP ice-time, which should provide more evidence for a positive increase this upcoming season if he maintains similar numbers. I’d definitely head into the season thinking 65 but with plenty of upside for more.
For a third example we can take a backwards approach. Andrew Brunette finished the season with 129 SOG, 61 points and an ice-time average of 17:01 per contest for the Wild. He is fluctuating between the top-line and the second line in Minnesota which does give him a small boost in production, but the small amount of SOG and lack of ice-time is a big warning bell for me heading into next season. I certainly wouldn’t head into next season thinking equivalent production, but a five to 10 point drop probably would be reasonable. Think 50-55 in 2010-11.
So hopefully you can use the guidelines above, along with the numbers to help you gain a better grasp of what to expect for player X heading into next season. Of course if you are desperately seeking different opinions, hop onto the DobberHockey Forums and there will be plenty of fantasy fanatics who are ready and willing to give you’re their opinions. Questions or comments? Like always I’ll be ready and willing to discuss them with you in the comments section below. See ya guys next week as we have some more post-season discussion about the Western Conference.
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Ryan Ma
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... RE: Semin That's what I love about this site, there's always someone more knowledgeable than you and can provide you with a different picture. A perfect example of where numbers don't tell the entire story... but they do tend to give a very accurate general picture. |
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Ryan Ma
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... RE: 4th year players Yeah I'm still debating between which numbers to use to be honest... NHL considers anything less than 10 games to be not counted as rookie years. But then if you look at a situation like Rob Schremp who has played a few years of NHL hockey but has only cracked the 10 game mark in his 4th season, should we consider this his rookie year? I know Dobber counts his 4th year very similar to you, for me I take the easy way and say that whether you played 1 game or all 82 games it still counts as a season and count 4th season as an actual 4th season and disregarding number of games played. But I'll make sure I mention that in this year's magical 4th year article. |
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Ryan Van Horne
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Nice work Some nice number crunching here, Ryan. Helps provide a nice reality check and provides a nice big picture look at fantasy hockey. A couple of things I noticed though. You and Russ wrote about Nigel Dawes being a candidate for a fourth-year breakout last season. I wouldn't count the 2006-07 season as Dawes's rookie season. He only played eight games and was still eligible for the Calder the next season. I would argue that this season is his true fourth season. Same goes for Bolland. Brouwer just played his second NHL season and Schremp just lost his rookie eligibility this season. As for Semin's injury history, well it is a laundry list but it does not inlude and games missed in his 52-game rookie season. There were no injuries that season. http://forecaster.canada.com/faceoff/hockey/player.cgi?3065&showAllMoves=1 He left the team for a month to play in the world juniors and was a healthy scratch a few nights. If you add up the amount of time he's missed by injury the last four seasons, you'll get a more accurate number. (5+19+22+9=53 games) divided by 4 which equals 12.5 games per season, not 17. A small difference? Yes perhaps, but if you're going to crunch the numbers, you should crunch the right ones. Cheers. |
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Ryan Ma
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... Thanks for all the positive comments guys! Glad that it was of relevance. Makes me appreciate the work that I do even more. |
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Jeremy
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Wow Ryan Looks like some time off has done you good Ryan because this is the best write up I've seen on Dobberhockey.com perhaps ever. Great analysis. I'm surprised that the West is now outscoring the East in goals per game, that's my biggest take away from this article. I guess I won't be as shy taking Western conference players for 2010/2011! Good stuff! |
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Shoeless
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... Mah-vellous food for thought. I am going to apply this to a couple of dodgy keeper decisions I have to make. I tend to make these decisions intuitively based on these parameters - nice to have a machine to test those intuitions with. |
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Barry - Nehithaw
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Awesome Article!! These kinds of articles are the reason Dobberhockey is the best fantasy hockey site. This was an awesome article. Thanks for this Ryan and keep up the good work. |
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