Stanley Cup Playoffs

 

Here are the individual and averaged predicitions for the first round of the NHL playoffs from Dobber, Angus, Bugg, Ma, Miller, and more! The panel's consensus picks were 12-3 last year, and we boast an impressive 34-11 record over the past three seasons!

 

*Note: charts will be updated as the crew submits their responses, so be sure to check back!

Eastern Conference Picks:


Expert WSH vs. MTL NJ vs. PHI BUF vs. BOS PIT vs. OTT
Dobber WSH in 5 NJ in 7 BUF in 4 PIT in 5
Jeff Angus WSH in 6 NJ in 5 BUF in 6 OTT in 7
Matt Bugg WSH in 5 NJ in 6 BOS in 6 PIT in 5
Chris Boyle WSH in 6
NJ in 6
BUF in 5
PIT in 5
Russ Miller WSH in 4 NJ in 5 BOS in 6 PIT in 4
Ian Fergusson WSH in 5 NJ in 6 BUF in 5 PIT in 6
Justin Goldman WSH in 7 NJ in 5 BUF in 6 PIT in 6
Marcus Schalle WSH in 5 NJ in 5 BUF in 4 OTT in 7
Marty Kwiaton WSH in 5 NJ in 7 BUF in 6 PIT in 5
Ryan Ma WSH in 4
PHI in 7
BOS in 6
PIT in 5
Brent Lemon WSH in 5
NJ in 7
BUF in 5
PIT in 6
Steve Johnson WSH in 5
NJ in 5
BUF in 6
OTT in 6
Ryan Van Horne WSH in 4 NJ in 5 BUF in 6 PIT in 5
Consensus WSH in 5 NJ in 6 BUF in 6 PIT in 6


Western Conference Picks:

 

Expert SJ vs. COL CHI vs. NSH VAN vs. LAK PHX vs. DET
Dobber SJ in 4 NSH in 7 VAN in 6 DET in 7
Jeff Angus SJ in 6 CHI in 6 VAN in 5 PHX in 7
Matt Bugg SJ in 6 CHI in 4 VAN in 4 DET in 6
Chris Boyle SJ in 5
CHI in 6
VAN in 6
DET in 5
Russ Miller SJ in 4 NSH in 6 VAN in 5 DET in 7
Ian Fergusson SJ in 5 CHI in 4 LAK in 7 DET in 5
Justin Goldman SJ in 6 CHI in 6 VAN in 7 PHX in 6
Marcus Schalle SJ in 5 CHI in 4 VAN in 5 DET in 6
Marty Kwiaton SJ in 7 CHI in 6 VAN in 5 DET in 7
Ryan Ma SJ in 6
CHI in 5
VAN in 5
DET in 5
Brent Lemon SJ in 4
CHI in 5
VAN in 6
DET in 7
Steve Johnson SJ in 7
CHI in 5
VAN in 5
DET in 6
Ryan Van Horne SJ in 6 CHI in 6 VAN in 5 DET in 7
Consensus SJ in 5 CHI in 6 VAN in 6 DET in 7


Picks for the Cup Final, Winner, Conn Smythe and Top Scorer:

 

Expert Cup Final Cup Winner Conn Smythe Top Scorer
Dobber VAN vs. PIT PIT Sidney Crosby Sidney Crosby
Jeff Angus PHX vs. NJ NJ Zach Parise Zach Parise
Matt Bugg VAN vs. PIT PIT Sidney Crosby Sidney Crosby
Chris Boyle CHI vs. PIT
PIT
Sidney Crosby
Sidney Crosby
Russ Miller VAN vs. WSH WSH Alex Ovechkin Alex Ovechkin
Ian Fergusson CHI vs. WSH WSH Alex Ovechkin Alex Ovechkin
Justin Goldman CHI vs. BUF BUF Ryan Miller Sidney Crosby
Marcus Schalle VAN vs. NJ NJ Martin Brodeur Ilya Kovalchuk
Marty Kwiaton CHI vs. WSH WSH Alex Ovechkin Alex Ovechkin
Ryan Ma DET vs. PIT
DET
Evgeni Malkin
Evgeni Malkin
Brent Lemon VAN vs. PIT
PIT
Sidney Crosby
Sidney Crosby
Steve Johnson CHI vs. NJ
CHI
Duncan Keith
Alex Ovechkin
Ryan Van Horne VAN vs. WSH VAN Roberto Luongo Alex Ovechkin
Consensus VAN vs. PIT
PIT
Crosby
Ovechkin


Rounding out the Top 5:

 

Expert 2nd Scorer 3rd Scorer 4th Scorer 5th Scorer
Dobber Evgeni Malkin Daniel Sedin Henrik Sedin Alex Ovechkin
Jeff Angus Ilya Kovalchuk Alex Ovechkin Travis Zajac Nicklas Backstrom
Matt Bugg Evgeni Malkin Henrik Sedin Alex Ovechkin Daniel Sedin
Chris Boyle Evgeni Malkin
Jonathan Toews
Patrick Kane
Zach Parise
Russ Miller Nicklas Backstrom Henrik Sedin Zach Parise Mike Green
Ian Fergusson Alexander Semin Patrick Kane Joe Thornton Jonathan Toews
Justin Goldman Henrik Sedin Alex Ovechkin Patrick Kane Nicklas Backstrom
Marcus Schalle Daniel Sedin Zach Parise Henrik Sedin Alex Ovechkin
Marty Kwiaton Nicklas Backstrom Jonathan Toews Patrick Kane Mike Green
Ryan Ma Sidney Crosby
Pavel Datsyuk
Johan Franzen
Henrik Zetterberg
Brent Lemon Henrik Sedin
Alex Ovechkin
Daniel Sedin
Evgeni Malkin
Steve Johnson Patrick Kane
Nicklas Backstrom
Zach Parise
Ilya Kovalchuk
Ryan Van Horne Nicklas Backstrom Henrik Sedin Daniel Sedin Alexander Semin
Consensus Backstrom
H Sedin
Crosby
Malkin

 

About the DobberHockey Crew:

 

Darryl "Dobber" Dobbs - Pens the Daily Ramblings, Monthly Rankings, and the weekly column "The Dobotomy". He also appears thrice weekly on thehockeynews.com, as well as over at the Puck Daddy blog on Yahoo! every Thursday.

 

Jeff Angus - Author of "Angus Unleashed" and DobberHockey Senior Writer/Manager. Angus' thoughts appear in the daily ramblings on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday each week.

 

Chris Boyle - Author of the monthly "Roto Rankings", which can be seen here on the 15th of every month.

 

Matthew Bugg - Senior Writer for DobberHockey, author of Saturday's "Bugg Bytes," and co-author of the DobberHockey Fantasy Prospects Report.

 

Ian Fergusson - Author of the monthly column "An Expert's Audit", which can be seen here on the 12th of every month.

 

Justin Goldman - Author of the weekly column "School of Block", which can be found here every Monday.

 

Ryan Van Horne - Brings DobberHockey readers his analysis on all the top NHL prospects every Saturday with "Panning for Gold."

 

Marty "Mapletree" Kwiaton - Pens the weekly Saturday picks.

 

Ryan Ma - Author of "The Wild West" here at DobberHockey every Tuesday.

 

Russ "Comish" Miller - Pens "Eastern Edge", which can be found here every Thursday.

 

Marcus "Crazynuck" Schalle - Contributes the "Looking Ahead" article each Friday here at DobberHockey.

 

Steve "Notch" Johnson - Delivers his weekly picks every Friday, along with Marty Kwiaton.

 

Alessandro Seren Rosso - Stops by here at DobberHockey every second week to give you the inside scoop on Russian hockey players/prospects - "Rosso on Russia."

 

Brent Lemon - "Lemon Aid" appears every second Wednesday, answering the questions you never knew you had.


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Ryan Van Horne said:

Scribe
Never laugh at someone else's predictions Nostradamus is dead. Besides, his prophetic abilities were contrived and over-hyped. Still, we do our best and the prognostications create some chatter.

Making predictions is a difficult job and I would never laugh -- well, I would do my best to never laugh anyway -- at someone else's predictions.

I did not laugh at this prediction even though it was wrong: "Haha Vancouver in the final???? Kings hand them their ass in 6, but at least they will be in LA so they can hang out and enjoy the weather!"

Never laugh at someone else's prediction.

As for the Phoenix winning prediction, I would not be surprised. Angus might still get a visitor yet. Lee Stempniak says the Coyotes are the most cohesive team he's played for. I know Detroit is peaking, but the Yotes are showing why Dave Tippett is a legit Jack Adams Award candidate.
April 26, 2010
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Jon Dey said:

Sovereign
And as my friend Jimmy Pineapple would say... "CASE F---ing closed!"
April 14, 2010
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Jon Dey said:

Sovereign
I guess I lied as I am writing again... There is no debate. The NHL owns the 'Yotes, that much should be very clear to anyone who has read or covered that debacle.

City of Glendale received Memorandums of Understanding from IceEdge and Reinsdorf. Which is basically a legal agreement to have an open understanding about an intent to proceed with an act. In this case taking over ownership and operation of the Phoenix Coyotes and the Jobing.com arena. It may or may not be legally binding depending on the wording.

IceEdge's bid was essentially dead the moment Reinsdorf re-entered the bidding contest. Most media pundits agree. A unanimous 6-0 agreement was made towards Reinsdorf, while IceEdge was shot down 5-1. Have NO ILLUSIONS, Reinsdorf has always been the guy, he was the guy when he was doing backdoor deals during the initial hearings last year, he was the guy when he faded out of the picture when too much attention was being paid to the closed-door sessions and evidence came to light of that fact. He has been the guy since Balsillie lost and Reinsdorf and his Cadré, including Bettman, have been putting this thing back together.

Evidence of that is the sweetheart arrangements listed in the agreement to have a 'Lost Income Slush Fund'(1)(2) of upto 100M over 7 years and the right to leave after 5years if the business is still not profitable. In the event of Reinsdorf selling he is guarenteed his 103M investment in the team back.

Who gets that kind of bid? And tell me there is not dirty fingers all over this bid and all over this franchise.

To the 'Yotes defence, it is reported that the team is SOLD OUT for Game 1 in Phoenix.

1 - "Under the terms of Reinsdorf's proposal, the NHL would get $65 million for the team while Reinsdorf would set up a fund to cover operating losses of up to $25 million a year with a maximum $100 million over seven years" - Toronto Star

2 - "...if certain conditions related to the facilities district aren't met, then in the fifth year Reinsdorf's group could give 180-days notice that it intends to sell the team. Glendale would have that 180 days to find a buyer who would keep the team in Arizona, with Reinsdorf guaranteed a minimum purchase price of US$103 million, the amount the group will invest in the team." - TSN

This is a dirty deal. SMART BUSINESS for the NHL, that has quite frequently done business and sold teams to less that reputable people. Again, tell me that people that do this sort of business are beyond interfering in games. I wish I was 100% wrong, and that maybe I shouldn't have inhaled while at University, but I just can't stare at the trees and not notice the forest. Especially, as you said with so many one goal games. It is not unheard of, but to me "something is rotten in the state of Denmark". Barely any coverage, from now till the playoffs are done, that involves the coyotes will not make mention of the financial woes and how much a post-season berth has helped the team.
April 14, 2010
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Ryan Ma said:

Maaaasquito
... RE: Reinsdorf's Bid

Also from what I read about the article it seems that it's actually the City of Glendale that owns the Coyotes and the NHL is just operating it because there's no official "owner" for the team. It was the City of Glendale (not the NHL itself) that approved the sale to Reinsdorf which is still pending NHL approval.
April 14, 2010
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Ryan Ma said:

Maaaasquito
... RE: PHX

Discussion is what makes debating great... The only flaw that I can see from your statement is that you seem to think that the Yotes made the playoffs because of "reffing", "lucky bounces" or just the league plainly favouring them. I also acknowledge the fact that you are giving some credit to them for doing so.

But, I just think that you're not giving them enough credit in that area to be honest. The Yotes aren't actually as bad as they appear on paper. I've watched a few Yotes games this season (to help with my articles) and they do play very sound defensive hockey (limiting shots to low percentage shots, keeping both D and a forward back), which is why they were so successful this season. Playing such a defensive style you don't need dynamic offensive players to put up point-per-game seasons nor even 60 points in a season for that matter... you just need players who are willing to buy into the defensive system and to play their role. Face it at the end of the day, Phoenix is a 1 goal team, if they're gonna beat ya it's going to be a close tight nit/tight checking 1 goal game, they're not going to blow you out of the water like a Washington or SJ would.

They were 29-6-7 on the season in 1 goal games and that's thanks to the defensive system that Tippett has incorporated in PHX. Yes the players were pretty much the same players from last season, but that just shows how much a coach and alter a team just by coaching them properly...

I don't think they have the man power to hold down the Red Wings, but if they were playing say the Kings, Preds, Avs and maybe even the Nucks I probably woulda picked them to sneak a 1st round win.

Watch a couple of games and you'll see that they're actually not as bad of a team as you think they are.
April 14, 2010
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Ryan said:

RYENFORCERS
Coyotes are very very good... I have watched the Coyotes all year...Their record speaks for itself. They can beat anybody and have a great record against elite teams this year. They have won their last 8 home games and are also red hot.

Yes, Detroit is the easy pick, but the way the Coyotes have passed EVERY test to this point, I expect them to go deep.
April 14, 2010
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Nigel said:

chimp82x
... @Jon Dey: I am surprised that you still feel so strongly that the Coyotes winning season is a conspiracy despite the pile of evidence that the team has a sound defensive style.

I hope that you will claim conspiracy if Buffalo, Boston, Colorado, Ottawa, Montreal, LA or Nashville win the cup as all of these teams had a worse record than the Coyotes and should lack the "personnel" to win. Also, like Dave Tippett, Ruff, Sacco, Julien, Clouston, Martin, Murray and Trotz have never coached a team to a cup win.

Of course every management decision made by the team will, in the end, come down to money. But I have to say that if I was in Bettman's shoes and tampering with a team was in my best interest, it would be a lot easier to fudge some profit numbers than convince the NHL Officials Association, as well as the players, to conspire alongside you. That argument is incredibly weak. This is the NHL, not the US government we're talking about.
April 14, 2010
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Jon Dey said:

Sovereign
FYI to ALL... http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=317948

Reinsdorfs bid was approved and IceEdge has been rejected.
Bear that it mind when you choose not to believe that things surrounding the team are not all being based on business.

Reinsdorf you'll remember dropped out after too much attention was getting paid to the steal of a deal that was being negotiated for him.

IceEdge was the only bid that maintained activity for the duration and agreed to work with the NHL to reach an agreement rather than setting its own terms of purchase.

Make of that what you will. I will write on this no further.
April 14, 2010
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Jon Dey said:

Sovereign
Re: Ryan I have said I give the staff and team some credit, but I reserve my doubts regarding a miracle run. The just don't have the personnel to do it.
Even the team dealing at the deadline raised a lot of questions by a lot of insiders. Talked about here I am sure. So it can't be argued that things happening surrounding PHX have happened to other teams. A lot of decisions have raised eyebrows.

As good or as bad as one may view Tippett, you hit the nail on the head, he does not take teams deep. And has had better teams to do it with. I can accept them making the playoffs. I can't accept them winning the cup.

As I said, if the PHOENIX COYOTES WIN THE CUP I will stop watching. I will watch this series very closely out of interest to see if it is all Goal-tending. PHX should be no match for DET especially in round one, and it is not like DET is a team to take dumb penalties.

Don't want to ruin a thread or two by furthering this discussion. The most that would be lost is a guy on a forum to be replace by two more at a later date.

April 14, 2010
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Ryan Ma said:

Maaaasquito
... RE: PHX

It is exactly the coaching personnel that has changed the team over the course of a year. Dave Tippett is arguably the best at coaching defensive hockey. Yes, Hitch is good, so is Lemaire, but Tippett is probably the best at doing it without the "big name" attached or even being noticed. If you looked at his historical numbers... From 2002-03 on his teams have ranked: 3rd, 2nd, 6th, 3rd, 6th, 25th (blame Turco) and 3rd in goals allowed per contest... In terms of shots allowed per contest his teams have ranked: 5th, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 4th, 5th and 12th...

Under Gretz the Yotes were a players team... they did what they wanted and weren't ever held accountable. Under Tippett they played under his system and if they didn't do what they were told they were benched. Which is why they got rid of all the young players and were replaced with veterans who would buy into the defensive system.

PHX is certainly deserving of where they are today because of great coaching, but in the playoffs generally offensive teams find ways to score and defeat defensive minded teams, which is why Tippett has never taken a team past the conference finals.

Either way the Yotes needed to make the playoffs this year and Tippet was the perfect coach to get them there. Whether or not you believe that there is a conspiracy theory behind it. The Yotes got there playing smart, responsible defensive hockey due to the great coaching of Tippett and you can't really take that away from them.
April 14, 2010
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Louis DeSerrano said:

Luigi
NSH in 7 ? Heys Dobbs, first I owe you a ton of thanks. ( US Steel... we're going back!)

But Dobbs, NSH in 7 ??? The Preds are one of the most offensively challenged teams in the league. Behind the Caps, the Hawks are a powerhouse! Dobber, after Olympic Gold, Toews will be hoisting Lord Stanley!!
April 13, 2010
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Jon Dey said:

Sovereign
ALL RE: @Jon Dey I can't in good conscience believe a team that remained relatively unchanged in the way of personnel can turn things around so dramatically. That would be like re-running the Olympics and watching Belarus take the gold.

I think that winning the court battle has entrenched Bettman, and with the league owning PHX and Bettman calling the shots I can't in good conscience believe that there has been no tampering. The KEY fact is that for the OWNERS this is business, and they all OWN Phoenix. Bettman also has to provide viability for that and every small market to stop a run in firesales for small market teams and the bottoming-out of team values. Remember he is trying to justify growing the league by two more teams at $500 million for each expansion. Hard to do or justify when teams are failing and selling for less than $200 million. That is without taking into account that the recent TB sale was reported less than $200 million for optics, but the actual money split was probably somewhere in the $60-80 million range with the other $120-140M being for optics and legal viability to keep it looking clean. That principle of the deal is not questioned by most insiders, it is really just varying numbers in the $60-80M range.

This is business and the league needs to stay/look viable, and the existing owners don't want to support a losing enterprise in PHX, for some of them it is a second losing enterprise which they are supporting. BAD BUSINESS.

With PHX making the playoffs, the loses are really cut into for the year because it is all profit for every home game. The BUSINESS owners all benefit the long PHX stays in the playoffs.

Also consider that Reinsdorf has now re-entered the picture after he initially dropped out because too much attention was being paid to the deal. Now that talk has died down, he has quietly re-entered and by most sources has the leading/intended-to-win bid.

Those circumstances from a BUSINESS point of view make me really wary of tampering. I understand the reasoning, but won't believe in the viability in the ON-ICE product if PHX makes a miraculous run.

I will watch that series closely for questionable judgments made by refs. In the REG season NO ONE is watching or paying attention to what is going on in PHX. In the playoffs as the games get covered by larger more scrutinizing viewers it will be very hard to hide.

I am not crazy. I know a lot of people calling for PHX to win just because they believe the fix is in. They will watch just to witness. It will be interesting to see if PHX implodes all of a sudden now that the whole world is watching.

Yes it is a CONSPIRACY THEORY. But the bottom line is that it is business. And we all know seedy things go on in junior and house-league hockey. Why would it not happen in the pros with $2+ billion on the line?

I hope I am wrong so that I can keep watching my favourite sport.
April 13, 2010
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T.S. said:

icet88
Colorado - SJ I thought Dobber picked Colorado to upset San Jose in his playoff excel sheet, but here he's picking SJ in a sweep. Did I miss something?
April 13, 2010
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Will S said:

Bomm Bastic
Senators I'm totally picking the Sens in an upset over Penguins.
April 13, 2010
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... I picked Daniel to beat Henrik
April 13, 2010
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Chad said:

tryhard87
... @chimp: I agree 100% with you.

@Jon Dey: Phoenix had 169PP and was shorthanded 161 times. Pretty much even. The reason why they are where they are is because of Ilya Bryzgalov. Their GPG was 2.50 a year ago and only raise 0.09 to 2.59 this year. The only significant change they had was an all-star goalie in net.
April 13, 2010
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chimp82x said:

chimp82x
Re: Sedins I don't understand you guys who picked Henrik to come top-5 in scoring, but not Daniel. You realize they had identical point-per-game numbers this season, right?

@Zorro You crazy! I'm not saying Detroit can't beat Phoenix, but I sure as hell wouldn't bet a flight to Vancouver on it.

@Jon Dey Do you really believe that the refs got Phoenix into the playoffs? A couple bad calls over the course of a season might move you up one spot in the standings, but it would require numerous blown calls and probably the refs pushing the puck into the opposing team's net to help a crappy team win 50 games. Besides, Phoenix's strength is not their offense. It's their goaltender.
April 13, 2010
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Big Ev said:

Big Ev
... Washington better watch out, you know what happens when everybody predicts the same team to win the series.
April 13, 2010
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Zorro said:

Zorro
... Angus?? You alright dude? Did you spin the wheel like MAGGIE the monkey?

PHX to beat Detroit? Ottawa to beat Pittsburgh? PHX to be in the cup final? If any of these three happen I will personally fly to Vancouver and shake your hand. Seriously I will. I am going to put this in a thread just so everyone knows..
April 13, 2010
Votes: +2

mike hess said:

SharkMeat
Wash and Det in the final Guys....Can I smoke some too? Washington will outscore the field, goaltending only needs to be average. Detroit peaks right time and its experience too hard to overcome by miracle guys in Phoenix, the lack of heart San Jose and the kids of Chicago.....Washington - Detroit for the cup....Washington in 7....
April 13, 2010
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Jon Dey said:

Sovereign
If PHX makes the cup... If Phoenix makes it to the final I believe I will quit watching hockey.

No offense to Phoenix fans or the players, but something wreaks already for a team that has been abyssmal for so long to suddenly do a 180 degree turn without any major roster changes. I understand the theory very well that sending the youth down to develop and stop experimenting is a positive, and I'll give that some credit. But for a team that can still barely get 8000 people in the stands, and that has little coverage, and coming off of the ownership debacle based around how bad they have been for so long, to suddenly turn water into wine is just too much. To me it screams tampering in a market where no one is looking.

Not so much, out and out rigging the game. But letting penalties slide, and allowing questionable goals. It still puts some of the onus on the players, but definitely tilts it in their favor.

Call me nutty, but I can't remember seeing anything like that in Pro sports.
April 13, 2010
Votes: -2

Adrian Keogh said:

Goalin Crazy UK
... Haha Vancouver in the final???? Kings hand them their ass in 6, but at least they will be in LA so they can hang out and enjoy the weather!
April 13, 2010
Votes: +0

ziggy aka ian said:

Nifty Mittens
... boston? they cant score!
April 12, 2010
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Glen Hoos said:

angelofharlem
... Phoenix vs. New Jersey in the Cup final? Please God, don't let Angus be right.
April 12, 2010
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Chris said:

5hole
Picks. I agree with all the choices but goin out on a limb with Colorado in 7!
April 12, 2010
Votes: +0
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