Heatley

 

The Ottawa Senators have sent Dany Heatley to the San Jose Sharks, along with a fifth round pick, for Jonathan Cheechoo, Milan Michalek and a second round pick.

 

The Sharks get: A winger who not only can keep up with Joe Thornton, but many will argue that it is Big Joe who will need to keep up with Heatley. Question for Dany - since he was only traded to San Jose and no other team stepped up with an acceptable trade offer, does that mean he doesn't have any "options"? Will he not waive his no-trade clause now, either? One would think so. After all, he didn't waive it in a trade for Edmonton because there were no other options and he insists that he wanted "options". (Note: he did waive it, despite the lack of "options"). How do you feel about this, Oiler fans?

 

The Sens get: A pretty good draft pick (a late second), a pretty good second liner, and a cash vacuum. Let's face it, the Sens were forced to take Cheechoo and his $6 million remaining over the next two years, or SJ would not have done the deal.

 

Fantasy players impacted: First, the easy team. San Jose. Heatley was probably going back to his 90 or 100-point ways regardless. Is Thornton a step up from Jason Spezza as a linemate? That's debatable. I would call it a wash and assume Heatley will have a shot at 100 again this year - as I always figured.

 

On the other hand, Thornton will thrive. No longer will he be forced to play with second liners such as Milan Michalek, Patrick Marleau or Devin Setoguchi...or fifth liners such as Cheechoo. Nope, he's hit the big time with one of the best wingers in the game. If he was going to get back up over 110 points, it will be this season. So will it be Marleau-Thornton-Heatley or Heatley-Thornton-Setoguchi? I have a feeling it will be one or the other to start the year, and then 10 games in flip to the other troika...before switching back and forth every 10 games or so after that. On the off chance that a trio really clicks - it would obviously mean gold for either Marleau or Setoguchi. A distant candidate to also consider is Ryane Clowe. Put me down for Setoguchi at 55%, Marleau at 35% and Clowe at 10%.

 

Getting rid of two forwards and only bringing one back will help the youngsters - mainly Jamie McGinn and Logan Couture. Their odds of making the team just went up, and if they do make the team you can pad another 10 or 15 points onto their totals.

 

You have to like San Jose's power play now. Dan Boyle, Rob Blake and M.E. Vlasic all just became a little more valuable. And finally, I think this will help the Sharks win a couple more games. Just another reason to like Evgeni Nabokov.

 

And the muddier picture, which becomes a little more muddled. Ottawa moved a forward out whom they already replaced (with Alexei Kovalev) and yet they just brought in two more. Cheechoo will immediately get to audition on the first line. Since they're paying him so much and he is in a new environment, the team will hope to rekindle things. Will it pan out? 80-20 says "no". But for the first 20 games, look for him to play with Spezza and probably Daniel Alfredsson, with somebody moving to the wrong wing. On the second line, you would see either Mike Fisher or Ryan Shannon, who has played some center, in between Michalek and Kovalev. That's the best way to break it down. I think the Sens would like to see Shannon take the second line spot because Fisher has proved that he is a top checker who can post 45-55 points, but asking for something in the top six just doesn't work. Shannon, on the other hand, has yet to be tested there and his coach and GM have high expectations. He'll get a shot.

 

So do the Senators improve their scoring with Kovalev, Michalek and Cheechoo over Heatley? No, but they didn't do too bad, considering.

 


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Dobber said:

Dobber
... I had Couture in the guide at 20% odds to make the team. All it takes is a strong camp. With this news, I will be bumping him to 25% or 30%. If that's too much of a jump, then that can be a part of the guide where we disagree. His odds do improve.
September 13, 2009
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Lockedge said:

lockedge
... Dobber, Michalek has played LW for most of his time in the NHL but he's a natural RW from I recall back when he was drafted. I can say with certainty that he HAS played RW on Marleau's line before back when Patty was the #1C. He can most definitely play LW, who he could play either.

I do see Cheechoo getting the top line shot simply due to his history with solid playmakers, and the fact that 50 goal seasons don't come from nothing. He can score goals, and they'll want to see if they can make the most out of their investments. Michalek is a sure thing, and if Cheech works out(which tbh all depends on whether his sports hernia flares up again), Milan is a great 2nd liner. If not, he can be moved to the first line. Problem solved.

Also, I don't see Couture getting much, if any benefit from this trade. He would have to play a wing to stand a chance at getting a spot, because all four C spots are locked up(Thornton, Pavelski, Mitchell, Nichol). No way Couture outplays Mitchell, and no way does San Jose bench Nichol, who's the only legit 4th line C they have(no way mitchell plays that line at the start of the season, and honestly he shouldn't be relegated there to make room for couture). Couture COULD make the squad if he shifted to RW but he'd have some heavy competition.

McGinn gets a spot on the 3rd line now, I'm wager. Or at least gets better than a 50% shot at it. With the loss of Michalek, they need someone to step in and provide the defensive responsibility Michalek did, and Couture is not that player, and there really aren't very many on SJ.
September 13, 2009
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... Michalek and Cheechoo are different wings. They can both get on the first line. And what is the "first line" anyway? Is it Spezza's? Alfredsson's? Kovalev's? As such, is this worth disagreeing? If Michalek plays with Spezza and Cheechoo plays with Kovalev; while Alfredsson plays on yet another line...then who would be right? You? Me?


And Regin has no shot on a scoring line. I had a soft spot for Shannon, but that is gone now after two years of failure. I am just telling you my observations of his last 30 games and the fact that his NHL coach was his AHL coach. Just using logic. But also I have the early inside scoop on Notch's conversation with Bryan Murray - with that in mind, I wrote the analysis above about Shannon. You'll see when it's up. Nothing, nothing, to do with any soft spot.

Also - centers and how wingers being moved won't impact them.... Antropov was a center (winger now). Shannon was a center (winger now). Little was a center (winger now). These are names off the top of my head, but I could go on and on and on. Young centers are always moved to the wing. The Sharks are lacking in skilled forwards and the odds of Couture making the team just increased. They didn't flatline, they didn't decrease - they increased.
September 12, 2009
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fzusher said:

fzusher
... I disagree with some of your analysis, Dobber. Michalek is actually being paid more money, is younger and has higher hype now, so he'll get the top line audition. Cheechoo needed a change of scenery, and I think he is a better player than he's shown in recent years. I think he'll work out for them on the 2nd line with Kovalev and a good, creative center. I agree Fisher ain't it, though, but I am sceptical about Shannon. I see your soft spot towards small skilled guys talking here. He'll get an audition, but so will Regin. I agree with Lanky on the D (see my analysis in the forum).

As for San Jose, I don't see how this affects Couture at all. McGinn definitely, but Couture is a C and competes in a different pool - against Pavelski and Mitchell. Given that he wasn't exactly as dominating as you'd expect a relatively high top-rounder to be by this point in major junior, I don't see them rushing him but letting him develop more slowly. At least one year in the A, until he dominates there.
September 12, 2009
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Big_Ev said:

Big Ev
Point Projections Dobber, how many points do you think Mihalek and Cheechoo will now get playing with the Sens?

Both of these guys are on the waiver wire in my league and I'm wondering if I should drop Booth,Lupul,Giroux,or Kunitz for either one of them.
September 12, 2009
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lanky said:

lanky
... One of the biggest problems i thought the sens had the past number of years was the lack of secondary scoring. While it's almost often a bad idea to give up a superstar for more depth, i really think the sens offense is better as a whole this year.

Defenses will have more to worry about than just one line. I actually like the move for the sens considering heatley basically forced their hand. One of the better results of a "forced trade" that i can think of recently.
September 12, 2009
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Fergie said:

Fergie
... The chemistry in the dressing room of the Sens got improved. This might have a fantasy impact.
September 12, 2009
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doulos said:

doulos
... I can't speak for Oiler fans, but I'm pretty much numb to the team looking like a joke now. So whatever I guess.
September 12, 2009
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