Dobber here. Since we moved the grid on Goalie Post to the free section the membership has dropped by 50%. Suddenly, the move - and the purchase - isn't looking so bright. But I am absolutely certain that if those in fantasy leagues with daily transactions understood just what they were getting in their membership for 83 cents a month, they would be lining up to get one. I want to share with you three of the emailed updates that I have received this week with my membership, so you can get a sample:


1. 8:06pm Oct. 29 - (no starter had yet been announced for CBJ but it was assumed that Mason would start - how many GMs did this email alert help?)

Allen York leads the team onto the ice (Shawn Mitchell)

GP Advice: This is possibly York's first career NHL start, so if it happens, I'll work up a premium scouting report for members



2. 4:30pm Nov. 02 - (We send a daily breakdown of goalie records vs. opponent, plus advice on how to play it)

Here are the goalie matchups for Wednesday! Please note Mike Smith isn't confirmed, but very likely.

Bryzgalov vs. BUF: 1-3-0 with a 3.57 GAA and .860%
Miller vs. PHI: 12-8-1 with a 2.88 GAA and .905%

Gustavsson vs. NJD: 2-1-0 with a 2.55 GAA and .916%
Brodeur vs. TOR: 20-17-3 with a 2.53 GAA and .905% and 3 SO

Smith vs. COL: 3-1-1 with a 1.70 GAA and .934%
Varlamov vs. PHX: N/A

GP Advice: Jonas Gustavsson makes his fifth start in a row tonight, while Martin Brodeur is surprisingly starting tonight, as opposed to tomorrow, so look to see how he handles being thrown right into the mix against Kessel and company. Mike Smith continues to play well in a Coyotes uniform, while Semyon Varlamov has only won once on home ice this season.



3. 7:58pm Nov. 02 (This doesn't help your lineup any, but it sure is great to get an update like this - Miller pulled, Enroth in ... emailed minutes after it was done)

Ryan Miller gave up three goals less than halfway through the first period tonight and was just replaced by Jhonas Enroth. The first goal was scored after a juicy rebound into the slot. The second goal was a goal over his left shoulder from the right half-boards. Miller battled to make a real nice desperation glove save on Jaromir Jagr after that, but was beat by a Scott Hartnell slapshot minutes later over the same left shoulder from a very similar angle. Enroth is now in the game, making his third appearance of the season. Still 3-0 PHI in the first period.


$9.99 for the next 365 days. Goalie Post is here. Buy it here.

 

Martin Hanzal is starting to show the offense many have thought he has possessed all along. He's been placed in a strict checking role in the past, but is seeing more offensive opportunities this season with Phoenix's lack of depth up the middle. He's currently on pace for over 20 goals and 70 points.

 

A big reason for Hanzal's early season success has been Radim Vrbata (especially lately). Vrbata, like most secondary scorers, is streaky with his production. He has four goals and seven points in his last three games.

 

Yandle went pointless, while Ekman-Larsson, Klesla, Schlemko, and Morris all picked up assists. This won't happen often.

 

I haven't seen Colorado play a ton this year, but many nights I check the box score, I see minues for Jan Hejda and Erik Johnson. Is the top pair struggling?

 

Mike Smith had a great start - 39 saves on 40 shots. I never liked his game in Tampa Bay and didn't think he would work out for the Coyotes. So far I am looking very, very wrong. Another example as to why I defer to Justin Goldman regarding goaltending decisions in fantasy hockey.

 

Two concussions that scare me - Andy McDonald, and Peter Mueller.

 

Why have the Leafs managed to be more successful with largely the same forward group from last season? Simple – better breakout passes from a more mobile and consistent defensive group. It doesn’t matter who you have up front if they are constantly chasing in dump-ins or are receiving passes in bad areas.

 

Marc Crawford made a good point yesterday (cue this up as one of those things I thought I’d never say) regarding Ovechkin. Said he doesn’t play with a lot of deception – I agree. Teams have the game plan on him and seem to know what he wants to do before he does it. He’s obviously strong enough and talented enough to overcome this (and then some), but it is one reason why when he struggles it seems like he is trying to do too much.

 

Phil Kessel didn’t score a goal last night. I, for one, and disappointed. Good thing Lupul had three to make up for the travesty.

 

Luke Schenn continues to have a very sluggish start to the season. He saw only 10 minutes of ice last night.

 

The Devils were killed on the faceoff draw last night – Elias and Henrique went a combined 10 for 34. Hard to do much when you never have the puck3

 

Efficient game for Zac Rinaldo – an assist and 12 PIM in less than four minutes of ice time.

 

Brodeur’s loss last night was the 352nd of his career, and he is now tied with CuJo and Gump Worsley for most in NHL history. He absolutely earned that loss, allowing some questionable goals. His style of goaltending seems to be getting passed by with the quicker game. Very reactionary, seems a step slow on anything across the ice.

 

Phil Kessel was named NHL player of the month, and Joe Colborne was named AHL player of the month. I bet Bruins fans would have been happy reading that a few years ago! (I know, I know, Boston received Seguin, Knight, and Hamilton for Kessel.)

 

Kyle Turris is being linked to Calgary. I have a hunch something happens before December (Turris has to sign before December in order to be eligible for the rest of the season).

 

Jussi Jokinen is out for the next month, and the Hurricanes have recalled winger Drayson Bowman.

 

Ville Leino got the start on the top line in Buffalo last night. He didn’t earn the promotion, but as we have seen before, teams give long leashes to players who have recently received fat contracts. Leino has struggled at center and looks lost in Buffalo, while Adam has been one of the most pleasant surprises around the league.

 

Leino played 20 minutes with zero points.  Adam had a goal and an assist in less than 17 minutes of ice time.

 

Gragnani was a scratch last night as the Sabres wanted to get Mike Weber into the lineup. Look for Gragnani to be back in soon, as Weber was a minus-2 in only 12 minutes of ice time.

 

I, for one, cannot wait for the HBO Winter Classic this year – Tortorella is crass with censoring, imagine what he will be like without it?

 

Sorry for delay, the November edition of the 15 Points to Consider will be released this weekend.

 

A look at the man behind HockeyDB.com, a site I have used countless times.

 

I have enjoyed this series put together by LightHouseHockey (the top 25 Islanders under the age of 25). The most recent is #7 – Kevin Poulin.

 

Mike Green skated yesterday, but it didn’t go well. He left the ice after 10 minutes and watched the rest of the team practice from behind the glass. He is going to attempt to practice again today, but is unlikely to play on Friday in Carolina.

 

Montreal signed prospect Jared Tinordi yesterday. Has fantasy upside in leagues that reward defensive stats (hits, blocked shots).

 

Sean Avery cleared re-entry waivers yetesrday, but he isn’t going to play tonight.

 

From Brendan Ross, the OHL guru around these parts:

The Windsor Spitfires are on a 6-game losing streak which has caused former NHLer and Current GM of the Spitfires to unload some talent in hopes of rebuilding for the 2014 Memorial Cup bid.


Today, Windsor traded Pittsburgh prospect Tom Kuhnhackl to the Niagara Ice Dogs. 
for Phillip DiGiuseppe (Univ. of Michigan; 2012 draft prospect), goaltender Jaroslav Pavelka, three 2nd round draft picks ('12, '14, '15) and a '13 1st Round Import)



The Spitfires also traded Dallas Stars 2010 1st Round pick Jack Campbell to the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds for Patrick Sieloff, MacKenzie Braid and a boat load of picks (four 2nd Round picks, two 3rds and a conditional 15th round).


Look for the Gregg McKegg (Toronto Prospect playing for Erie) and Ryan Spooner (Boston prospect playing for Kingston) to be the next big names on the move.”

Does Calgary even think about trading Jarome Iginla at the deadline (assuming they are out of contention)?

 

The team is going to give every opportunity to Mikael Backlund once he’s ready to return. They have tried all options at center on the top line (where my bit on Turris from above comes in).

 

Mason Raymond will return 100% at some point this season. He started light skating a few weeks ago and has been pushing his off-ice training really, really hard. What does he do to Vancouver’s lineup? At this point, no one really knows. Hodgson had his best game of the season on Tuesday night, and Higgins/Hansen are staples on the third line.

 

 


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Hugo Twigg said:

yougo
About GoaliePost part2 I am sorry if you misinterpreted my comment. I am love everything about Dobberhockey. It just sounded wrong when I read that ad about GoaliePost. Keep up the good work Dobber, and again I'm sorry if you feel like I was bashing/trolling you.


November 04, 2011
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derek said:

buck0198
Chris Carpenter Hey Dobber! Did you see the footage of Chris Carpenter at the St. Louis Blues practice...he can play. I had no idea.
November 03, 2011
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Jerry said:

CallMeJerry
Return for Kessel Angus, you forgot on top of Seguin, Hamilton & Knight, the Bruins also got the Stanley Freakin' Cup.
November 03, 2011
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Sleemans said:

Sleemans
... Dobber,
I'm a paying member of the GP, but don't see the Top 120 keeper goalies list anywhere.
November 03, 2011
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Malkin Ha8er said:

crookedvulture
... oh and Maximum.. i still buy CDs. Don't feed the trolls.
November 03, 2011
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Malkin Ha8er said:

crookedvulture
... I'm sorry. I will stop trolling. I enjoy the site Dobs. Ramblings are the best. I buy the guide every year. Didnt mean to rock the boat.. well I guess i did, but shouldve have.
November 03, 2011
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BGJ said:

bletchley
... Vrbata has been getting the points because of Whiten. Whitney is playing unreal...Hanzal and Vrbata are benefiting.
November 03, 2011
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Maximus said:

Mr Zizzla
Shut Up and Pay Up For anyone that uses this site, it's an invaluable fantasy hockey resource and all the fantasy hockey information one can handle can be found on the DSN.

GG is incredible. I've always loved the goalie position but Justin makes me want to go back to being a kid so that i can play goal and use his great tips and analysis.

Frozen Pools is a tool i didn't use much until the end of last season but when it became a paid service, i clicked PAY NOW as fast as i could. It's one of, if not, the best fantasy hockey tool system out there. Breaking down trade offers and hunting for that steal of a deal is incredibly easy with this tool, especially compare a player. Worth every penny.

To anyone that complains about spending around $40 per year for all of the fantasy hockey information that you get here, from the guides to the membership fees to the tools, must be 21 years old or younger and part of the "everything on the internet should be free" generation. it's a small price to pay for a one stop fantasy hockey shop.

@Malkin Ha8er, i bet you have never purchased music or movies either because you feel that since you have internet access you have the right to this information.
November 03, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
Malkin H7er Sorry, did you say something on my free site?

Hopefully it wasn't a complaint about how I appealed to my readers to consider supporting something that I took from being 100% paid and turned it into 50% paid.


shaun b - wow! Thank you sir



Hugo - I just got finished reading three emails telling me what a great job I did appealing to the readers and how most sites would have just moved the grid to the pay section. Then I read your comment that said I did it wrong. So who should I believe? LOL
I just wanted to give examples of what the email feature brings. I thought that was good salesmanship. And we'll have the free trial (one week) set up shortly.

Your comment "did you honestly believe making people pay for something they can get for free on the Internet" is untrue. What I did was, I took a PAY SITE and made something on it FREE. So it is "less pay" then it was before I bought it. Not a fair comment. Buy it for a month and I will refund you if you aren't convinced that what Justin offers you cannot be found free elsewhere.


Thanks everyone for the comments (especially the nice ones smilies/smiley.gif )



November 03, 2011
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Ross The Boss Palmer said:

Ross The Boss Palmer
crookedvulture/ Malkin Ha8er ... Remember when this site wasn't about pumping us for money? People gotta eat, and should be paid rightfully so for work done and services rendered.
November 03, 2011
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lusshouse said:

lusshouse
Goalie Guild I'm mostly into keeper leagues that do not start goalies on a daily basis, which is why I don't really use Goalie Guild / Grid / etc. Though I love to read Justin's article here on the mothersite.

I must say that I used Frozen Pool on a daily basis last season.

I gave myself a month, a month-and-a-half before deciding what to do with that : either I definitely needed it, or if it was just luxury I added to my fun of playing in fantasy leagues.

I must say that I had the same hesitation with HPG.

Unfortunately, there were no packages with both these 2 tools.

For next season, how about a possibility to buy "X" tools amongst the list for X price, and let us choose which one we have access to? Price could vary if some site is heftier?

Just my two cents.
November 03, 2011
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Hugo Twigg said:

yougo
About GoaliePost Justin Goldman is a goldmine of ressources for goaltenders. I, for once, work with goaltenders during the summer and I often use some of the tips he gives on my student goaltenders. But, and there is a but, I do not need those email updates about who's starting because I have on my twitter feed all the beatreporters of the NHL (or atleast from team's player I own), and sadly there is a free website around that gives that information too, with live update on twitter.

I have been a huge supporter of Justin Goldman's GoalieGuild because he is such a great part of the hockey community now and if he needs that 10$ from me to keep on doing the same awesome work that he does. I will buy a subscription to goaliepost.

What I don't like, is the way you are trying to sell it to us. Did you honestly believe that making people pay for something they can get free elsewhere on the internet wasn't gonna hurt the sell/subscription?

Anyway, like I said, I will support GoalieGuild and Dobber because it has helped a lot in my knowledge of hockey. But I think there's a way to ask people to support, and I'm not sure you have the right way Dobber.
November 03, 2011
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Ed Murdoch said:

emurdoch
@ GmGates and shaun b I couldn't agree more. Both tools are a goldmine and both tools are worth the price... But maybe not to everyone. Subscriptions are dropping for a reason and objective feedback is one of the ways to help figure out why.

If 90% of people only care about the Grid and 0.75% of people only care about keeper goalies... that leaves a slim margin if sales are a priority.

@Malkin Ha8er... Remember when it took 20x the effort to ferret out a tenth of the information you get here?

November 03, 2011
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Ettlio said:

eamCan
... @Malkin Ha8er - "Remember when this site wasn't about pumping us for money?"

This site is free and offers great services. In order to maintain quality, writers and developers need to be paid. It's not like the prices are high for some of the paid services like Goalie Post, $9.99/year....that's the price 2 Starbucks coffees..
November 03, 2011 | url
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Malkin Ha8er said:

crookedvulture
... Remember when this site wasn't about pumping us for money?
November 03, 2011
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GMGates said:

GMGates
GoaliePost and FrozenPool I have to agree with everything shaun b posted below. Both tools are a goldmine.

In two leagues, I have a start one G only. But when you have two top goaltenders in each. The nightly match ups are timely and help with the decision making. Daily updates via email are very welcoming and useful.

FrozenPool is in a league of its own, enough said.

If you want an edge, you should consider these tools.

November 03, 2011
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Craig K said:

csk_17
Pop-ups for Tyler As someone who works in online advertising, I can tell you that many pop-ups you see on sites have nothing to do with the site at all. More often than not, they are generated by a toolbar or browser extension that YOU installed or allowed to be installed. The toolbar maker then sells the pop-up inventory and advertisers target users by the URL's they visit (often based on your past browsing history). In some cases it's may be a malicious (see:virus) toolbar or extension, but usually it's a toolbar that you trusted. The worst part is site owners get all the crap (and lost visits) because most people assume the pop-ups are coming from them.
November 03, 2011
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shaun b said:

shingy
Goalie Post I've been a member of goaliepost for about 3 or 4 years now. I can honestly say that the amount of information provided currently is so over and above the price that it's a steal.
If you like to throw a few bucks on proline, the nightly "match-ups" between opposing team goalies is a gold mine, this email contains a variety of facts and opinion that I will not gamble...I mean set my lines without. Emailed directly to me every day. The insight on the next days probable starter is very useful even if it's an educated guess. Making projections any further ahead than that would likely be futile with so many variables involved. Man, I love the weekly schedule and the advanced weekly schedule. I'm sure I win weeks because I can better plan who to pick up off the wire based on how many games they have that week, the next week, 5 straight weeks etc..and vs which teams. I used it last night to decide whether to pick up Enroth or Neuvirth for a game in the next 3 days. It only took a couple of minutes to see what my options were using the schedule. You can plan backup starts weeks in advance.
The extra articles, premium downloads and goalie reports are well researched and fun to read definitely helped me with my Jacob Markstrom dilemma etc..
It's too bad the forum's had to be merged but I'm sure it made more sense maintenance wise.

Oh yeah, did I mention it's dirt cheap. Especially for what you get. A double big mac large sized would take care of it.

I would have to strongly recommend getting the Frozen Pools package though, that thing is deadly. The guy who conceived and developed it should be rich..lol.

That has been my experience. I sure I'm leaving things out but I digress.
November 03, 2011
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Tyler Haskell said:

TheBoneweasel
... Dobber--i agree with murdoch. The free tools are the one im most interested in. Not trying to lose access to something i value, but i heavily use the grid on a semi-daily basis. When a lot of coaches don't always announce starters more than a day in advance, it strikes me that the tonight-only grid is easily the most valuable one. if i were in charge i would have made it free to view every night EXCEPT the day of.

Im running a virus check now haha thanks
November 03, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
Ed And don't forget the Top 120 keeper goalies (it's only the Top 50 on DobberHockey). That's gotta be another 0.75%, no?!?!
November 03, 2011
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Ed Murdoch said:

emurdoch
Goalie Post I bought it and I use it every day. Here's my usage:

95% - The Grid (for starters today)
4% - The Forum (It's the Dobber forum, but I see interesting topics)
0.9% - Emails
0.1% - Tomorrows Starters

I made the purchase because I fully respect the effort it takes to provide this information... and I'll buy it again next year. I'm just noticing that the most useful information (for me) is the free stuff, so I'm not shocked to hear that subscriptions are suffering.

The emails contain great information, but, so far. they haven't given me a strategic edge. York is a great example, but he was called up long before he got his first start. If I was desperate enough to grab him I would have been watching the Grid for his start anyway (Roster changes take effect next day).

Initially, I was very excited about the link for Tomorrow's Starters.. but I haven't been using that as much as I hoped. I understand that projections are always risky, but I would love to see speculation for the coming week taking into account injury, B2B, streaks, etc. (with comments)

Just my thoughts.
November 03, 2011
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Bret Taylor said:

TheRook
... sorry, before the first period was over (not began).
November 03, 2011
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TheRook said:

TheRook
... The Leino top line experiment was over before the first period began. Adams was put back on and Leino was put on line 2 as LW with Roy and Stafford.
November 03, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
Tyler There is no pop ups. I do not allow pop ups on my sites. No exceptions. All my sites use the same ad network. You may have a virus. But if anyone ever sees a pop up or any annoying ad on any of my sites, please email me a screen shot so I can see if it is my network that I need to speak to...or if it is a virus on a personal computer.

Not weak management - those prick spammers can be clever and sneak stuff on sites and/or PC's.


As for packages - next year we are setting things up so that you can pick and choose the features you want for a package discount. So GP and HPG will be available then.

Appreciate the feedback (now give it another chance! haha)
November 03, 2011
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Tyler Haskell said:

TheBoneweasel
... The reason i didnt buy goalie guild is this--i tried it out, checking all the free features. they're, you know, cool and all, and im a big fan of Justin's as well as goaltending in general. However, 50% of the time i click on any link on that site, a pop-up advertisement appears and my chrome shuts down. I haven't gotten a SINGLE pop-up ad since ive gotten my new computer about six months ago except for on his site. To me, that signals weak management. No offence or anything, and i love everything about the dobber network. i have a subscription to hockeypoolgeek, even.

If i could make a suggestion to bolster sales, offer a package of hockeypoolgeek and goalie post. i looked to try and find it and was surprised too find it didnt exist. that would have been the perfect combo for me, and im sure many others would agree.

Thanks, best of luck in sales.
November 03, 2011
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Kris said:

4horsemen
Breakout Passes Jeff - it's like you read my mind. I was thinking the exact same thing as I watched the Leafs beat the Devils last night. Gardiner and Liles are really giving the Leafs something that they've been missing for a LONG time....speed out of their own end and crisp breakout passes. The NJD, on the other hand, are in desperate need of these exact same qualities. One day Larsson may be that guy but at the moment their forwards get absolutely no help from the back end and from what I can tell it's a major reason for their pitiful goal totals.
November 03, 2011
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CommittedToTheIndian said:

CommittedToTheIndian
... Devils correction
Elias (7-16) and Henrique (3-smilies/cool.gif went a combined 10 for 34, Jeff. 10 won, 24 lost, 34 total.
November 03, 2011
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