Teddy Purcell has signed a two-year deal with the Lightning worth nearly $2.4 million cap hit. That kind of money, plus his playoff play, will keep him on the second line now.

 

As expected, the Red Wings have signed Ty Conklin. Attention Howard owners - Conklin is more of a threat to steal some starts than Osgood was. It may only be marginal, but it will be different.

 

Brett MacLean has signed a two-way contract. Man, these kids just do not get an easy path into the NHL, do they? Perreault, Jeffrey and now MacLean. If the agent is good, they can at least get a two-year deal where the second year is one-way. Otherwise, they’ll just get the same thing offered to them next summer. Although, in the case of MacLean, who is younger and has seen less NHL time, this deal is far less of a surprise.

 

The Coyotes have also signed Kyle Chipchura to be their water boy. I’m kidding, he’s a better hockey player than me so I can’t poke fun.

 

Andrej Sekera shocks me with his new contract. At four years, $11 million, it’s hard to imagine him taking a backseat to anyone in terms of power-play time. I mean, that’s just serious coin. And long term. With Gragnani still unsigned, I wonder what is going to happen here. The Sabres are over the limit in terms of cap space. Ehrhoff is signed for a million years. Sekera now for four. Leopold is making big bucks for another two. Ditto for Regehr. In keeping with my statement in the paragraph above – is Gragnani actually going to get a two-way contract and get screwed out of the NHL? After leading this team in playoff scoring? The Sabres already have seven defensemen signed and all to big dollars except for Myers and Weber. And Myers is a Golden Boy. So who gets traded? Leopold? And does anybody want him for that cap hit?

 

Something needs to happen in Buffalo even if both Morrisonn and Kotalik are buried in the minors.

 

I wish they would start the Hall of Fame over again and get rid of 30% of the players. Not exclusive enough. The fact that we’re even talking about Chris Osgood for the Hall of Fame tells me that much. I like Osgood, and it sucks that I have to be negative about him when talking about this with some people. Screw the stats. Start the HoF over with simple criteria for the committee to go by:

1. For defensemen – was he at any point in his career one of the three best defensemen in the world during a given year?

2. For goalies – was he at any point in his career one of the two best goalies in the world during a given year?

3. For forwards – was he at any point in his career one of the five best forwards in the world during a given year?

KISS – Keep It Simple Stupid. There is going to be a run of years where most of the same players would fall into that criteria, so this would severely limit the inductees each year. SCREW THE STATS. This would get the Ciccarellis and the Joey Mullens out of there, and put the Bures, Mogilnys, the Lindros’, and the CuJos in there. Basically, if there was Team Earth vs. Team Mars, would the player have ever been on that team? Pointing out this stat and that stat drives me nuts.

 

The Flyers have signed Jason Bacashihua as their No.4 goalie, effectively chasing Johan Backlund to Europe.

 

Dallas has signed minor leaguer Ray Sawada. A two-way contract of course.

 

Here are my thoughts on the Colorado Avalanche, via The Hockey News

 

The Sharks have signed defenseman Andrew Murray to a one-year deal.

 

Stunning move, if you didn’t see this on Puck Daddy already, by a player who is not even a prospect…

 

 

 

Keep firing me YouTube clips!

 


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Jerry said:

CallMeJerry
HHOF It is silly and frankly lazy to just base HHOF worthiness based on stats (eg 1000 points gets you in the Hall). Without taking into account the era the stats came from they are meaningless. In my opinion, you have to be an elite player to be considered. If you want to have some simple formula, base it on the number of times you were chosen a first or second team all star. Mark Howe was a first team all-star 3 times. I don't have to look at stats to know he was an elite player. Chara has been first or second team all star 5 times. He's in. Even so, some exceptions can apply - if you were a centre playing at the same time as Gretzky & Lemieux, good luck being named an All Star. This is when common sense comes into play.
July 20, 2011
Votes: +0

jordan said:

Kickerz
I disagre I personally don't think that dominating the league for a year is as worthy an accomplishment as being a good player for many years.

Taken to an extreme, does CheeChoo belong in the hall? NO! I am still unsure about Lindross, but a player like Kariya I don't know if he belongs there. I think you have to have stamina to be in the hall. Does Crosby go, if he is forced to retire next year? NOT A CHANCE! The one problem I do have with stats is that you miss the really good defensive players that have a tough time getting represented in the stat department. The best shutdown defensemen deserve to be there as much as the best offensive Defensemen does.


A few friends and I were going over current players that may be destine for the hall. I think that you have to look at the stats for some players. A fwd needs over 1000 points, that shows an ongoing accomplishment. A defensemen might need 500.

Though there are exceptions. Personally, I think Chara should make the hall when his time comes. I don't know how much longer he can play, but I am not certain he ever gets up there with the higher D producers.

An interesting consideration...Hamrlik.. Check him out. Does he go to the hall?
July 20, 2011
Votes: +0

Draft Dodger said:

steve_oshp
HHOF Craig K you are totally on the money with your 'first glance' comment. If you have to debate whether or not a guy should be in, them most likely he shouldn't be in. And for sure cut out the 'if player x is in then player y should be' arguments especially with the HHOF having so many people in who shouldn't be there in the first place. I do think there should be some stats that make it almost automatic you get in, similar to baseball. There are certain goal/assist/point/win/shutout totals that pretty much prove you were either a superstar for a good length of time or an above average star for a very very long time, a number that doesn't matter whether it was high scoring era or not.
My two cents anyway
July 20, 2011
Votes: +0

Craig K said:

csk_17
HHOF As fantasy hockey-ers, we should all know pretty well that stats are useless unless used in context. HoF selections should use stats only as a comparison to peers (don't compare stats across year gaps of greater than 3-5 yrs), and should NEVER use the 'if player x, with these stats is in, then player y has to be'.

HoF's should pass the 'first-glance' test. If, at first glance, without having to ever look at stats, teams played for, trophy's or era, does a player deserve to be in, then he should be in. Even further, STANLEY CUPS SHOULD HAVE NO BEARING. In fact, they should be used in reverse: if player X, who has 3 Cups, played on an a team that never won the cup, would he still be in consideration? Those who think Osgood passes this test are biased and not very hockey smart.

Furthering that line of thinking, everyone should pass the 'transcendence' test: If player X played his whole career in a non-traditional hockey market on a mediocre team, was he enough of a star to transcend that handicap and still be considered deserving by the hockey community at large (Discounts Dougy Gilmour, amongst others). This test works from a global perspective, with an emphasis on importance to the greater good of the sport (Gilmour, Tretiak). It doesn't take a genius to see the difference between a flash-in-the-pan and a true superstar who had his career cut short and slightly-above-average over a long is still slightly-above-average, so longevity shouldn't be a major factor. Common sense is the key to all this.

Dobber's on the money, it needs to be more of a 10,000 foot view, not the ground floor. Drilling into the details and comparisons are what screwed everything up in the first place (of course the real problem is that ol' boys club they call the 'selection committee' - we all know that's the biggest joke running).

"Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
July 20, 2011
Votes: +1

WooWooWoo said:

WootskiWoo
The Sharks have signed defenseman Andrew Murray to a one-year deal. Andrew Murray is a forward... or a tennis player. Take your pick smilies/grin.gif
July 20, 2011
Votes: +2

Nick said:

slufoot
HHOF criteria The hall should have specific criteria as outlined by DGoodburn in that LPGA post. But it doesn't.
I don't know how you can argue Osgood shouldn't get in when guys like Gilmour and Nieuwendyk were just inducted. The top-2, top-3 criteria IMO is stupid because its even more subjective than using career stats, or a points voting system. Who determines top-2, 3, 5 in a season if not the voters for awards?
The game is played to win - that's what Osgood did. No Dobber, winning a cup doesn't give you status as best goalie on the planet - but 3 as a starter gives you status as better than a goalie with none.
July 20, 2011
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Larry said:

Rollie1967
im with Dobber The strength of a HOF is judged by the quality of players not in it,as much as who is in it. Longevity,playing a role on a winning team are only part of the criteria. Todays players have so many more opportunites to pad their stats than players pre-expansion. I can cut a few players some slack if their careers were ended prematurely due to injury (Neely,Bure,Lindros)and to those stuck playing for poor teams- and thus denied a true chance for playoff success (Federko,Vachon) but as Dobber pointed out- how often was Osgood considered a top 5 goalie? Personally I think he only scratched the top 10 a few years (where as Joseph was a top 5 many times). If Osgood had played the bulk of his career with the NYI or Blues- we wouldnt even be considering him for HOF status. Rogie Vachon was a far superior goalie stuck in LA. Osgood is the 90's equivalent of Gilles Meloche- only he played on great teams vs. poor teams for Gilles.
Osgood isnt a HOF'er, and I have hard time counting Clarke Gillies as one too, the debate should never be who shouldnt be in the HOF after the fact,it weakens the status.
July 20, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... Winning a Cup gives you automatic status as best goalie on the planet? Wow. What about when Hextall won the Conn Smythe but lost the Cup? Clearly he was the better goalie...yet by your criteria, Chewd, the Cup winner was better

Osgood's best season was with the Islanders, getting them into the playoffs for the first time. That year, he may - MAY - have been the 7th best goalie in the world. That was his peak.


Would you have ever nominated him for Team Earth to go up against Team Mars in a hockey game to save the world? haha

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July 20, 2011
Votes: +0

Chewd said:

Chewd
Osgood for HHOF Dobber,
If we "screw the stats" and base Osgood's entry to the HHOF on your criteria:
2. For goalies – was he at any point in his career one of the two best goalies in the world during a given year?

The result is that Osgood makes it in because he was the best 3 times and he has the Cups to prove it.
July 20, 2011
Votes: -1

Aaron said:

Aaron27
Sorry Doubting Thomas I don't think Dobber said "Was he at any point nominated for an award?"
He said "Was he at any point one of the top 2/3/5 goaltenders/defensemen/forwards on the planet?" Regardless of who's nominated for the awards.

The top 5 forwards for the 2010-2011 Hart trophy were:
Perry, D Sedin, StLouis, Toews, Kesler
But are those the best 5 forwards on the planet?
July 20, 2011
Votes: +0

David Goodburn said:

davidgoodburn
HHOF
THe LPGA has the hall of fame right (I know i can't beleive I just said that). Pretty exclusive 24 member club that sometimes goes years between inductees. Truly the Best of the Best.

To qualify for entrance into the LPGA Tour Hall of Fame, members of the LPGA Tour, who were active in 1998 and going forward, must meet the criteria outlined below. An LPGA Tour member who was active prior to 1998 and has since been inactive for more than five years would be eligible for the Veteran's Category. Entrance to the LPGA Tour Hall of Fame is limited to LPGA Tour members who meet the following criteria:

1. Must be/have been an "active" LPGA Tour member for 10 years:
2. Must have won/been awarded at least one of the following - an LPGA major championship, the Vare Trophy or Rolex Player of the Year honors; and
3. Must have accumulated a total of 27 points, which are awarded as follows - one point for each LPGA official tournament win, two points for each LPGA major tournament win and one point for each Vare Trophy or Rolex Player of the Year honor earned.


This is what all Hall of Fames should strive for.

As for all of you whining about Dobber's criteria, 1) topping an award voting does not make you the best at a position and 2) obviously a flash in the pan one season wonder does not qualify, use just an ounce of independent thought when analyzing his criteria, you'd be amazed how far it will go.
July 20, 2011
Votes: +2

Mr Sausage said:

Mr_Sausage
Osgood While he wasn't the most gifted goalie, judging by this years HOF inductees, Osgood definitely deserves to go. I mean if Joe Niewendyk is in, why shouldn't Osgood be? Niewendyk only hit 60+pts once since 1994 and hit 56pts only twice. Sure he averaged only 65 or so games a season since 94. But even so his numbers scream mediocrity. He has the playoff hardware so he is in. As should Osgood. Would I put Osgood in the HOF? No way. Would I put Niewendyk in? No. But the benchmark has been set. Going off of this benchmark, Osgood has the credentials and gets in.

Dobber is right. The hall needs to be more exclusive.
July 20, 2011
Votes: +0

Steve Montpetit said:

Haddock
Come on Doubting Thomas! Obviously these aren't the only factors in taking that HHOF decision according to Dobber. Success over time and impact on the game would still matter I'm sure. To read that and reduce his toughts to what you posted is ludicrous (and he's not even that good of a rapper).

Disappointing indeed.
July 20, 2011
Votes: +1

Doubting Thomas said:

Pengwin7
Booooooo The HHOF paragraph is probably one of the worst blurbs I've read in a DobberHockey rambling this year.

1. For defensemen – was he at any point in his career one of the three best defensemen in the world during a given year?
Dear Dion Phaneuf, based on your 2nd place finish for the 2008 Norris trophy, the HHOF would like to extend to you an invitation to join our club.

2. For goalies – was he at any point in his career one of the two best goalies in the world during a given year?
Dear Jim Carey, the HHOF is extending an invitation to you in our club based on your 1995-1996 season.
We would also like to invite Steve Mason for his 2nd place 2009 Vezina finish.

3. For forwards – was he at any point in his career one of the five best forwards in the world during a given year?
Dear Todd Bertuzzi, the HHOF was impressed by your 3rd place finish in points scoring during the 2001-2002 NHL season. You also had the highest PPG pace at 1.18ppg with 85pts in 72games. We would like to extend to you an invitation to join our club.

This is phooey.
I'm disappointed... seriously, disappointed.
July 20, 2011
Votes: -1

David Goodburn said:

davidgoodburn
HHOF I'm siding with Dobber on this one. HHOF should not be Hall of Above Average for a Long Time so I Accumulated the Requisite Benchmark Statistics to be Considered.

As much as I like Osgood he is NOT a Hall of Famer. I doubt in any given year he was even a top 5 goalie in the league. Credit him for preservverence, mental toughness, a fortunate situation and longevity but he just doesn't pass the eye test as a HHOFer.

But I suspect that in 5 years he will be in.
July 20, 2011
Votes: +1

Dale McCarthy said:

digitalmonkey
HHOF I value 10 years of very good play higher than 2 years of great play mixed in with mediocrity/injuries. Should we put Cheechoo in there...he did win the Rocket Richard Trophy that one year? lol

I think Dave Andreychuk is more deserving than Cam Neely.
July 20, 2011
Votes: +0

Reddawg said:

Reddawg
Sekera I don't see the Sekera contract throwing much of a wrench into anything, to be honest. Yes, his first and second year salaries are high, but his cap hit is only $2.75 million which is the same as Steve Montador just got from Chicago, and less than Marc Methot just got from Columbus. Sekera will definitely see secondary PP time (with Ehrhoff and Myers manning the points on the #1 PP), probably with Leopold back there for a partner.

The only way Gragnani was going to be top-six to start the year was if Sekera wasn't signed or if someone else got traded, we could still see a trade but it wouldn't make much sense to break up one of the best defenses in the NHL (Myers, Regehr, Ehrhoff, Leopold, Sekera and Weber) unless you're absolutely forced to. Dropping Ales Kotalik down to Rochester saves $3 million, and Shaone Morrison is on record as wanting out of Buffalo, he'll either be waived or traded. That's $5 million in cap that comes off the books, with Buffalo only $2.4 million over the cap as it sits (and only Gragnani and Enroth left to sign...both will be had for less than $2 million total).

Gragnani will be a good player, but a single playoffs isn't enough to anoint him as the next Brian Campbell or anything like that. Let him come along slowly, let him earn his spot, he'll be with Buffalo all year as the 7th defenseman no matter what and we all know injuries happen, he'll get his turn to show what he can do long-term.
July 20, 2011
Votes: +3

slufoot said:

slufoot
HHOF criteria I don't have a problem with at all with the exclusivity of the hall. Mogilny, Bure, Lindros do belong in. Mogilny should have gotten in over Gilmour this year.

But Osgood does belong there. The criteria you suggest is too subjective - because what criteris will you base them being top-3, top-2 ina given season?

If Cujo belongs there, then so does Osgood. Comparable win totals - yet Osgood has the championships. Cujo played for some pretty stacked Blues' teams, some decent Leafs's squads, AND couldn't get it done in his 2-year stint with the Wings.
July 20, 2011
Votes: -1

Lorraine said:

guylafluer
... I believe Morrisson went Chicago earlier .
July 20, 2011
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Jeff Angus said:

angus
... HHOF places too much emphasis on longevity and too little on career peak.
July 20, 2011
Votes: +0

Jerry said:

CallMeJerry
HHOF Absolutely agree that the HHOF is way too easy to get in to. I hate when someone just brings out the stats for the reasoning - "well he got 1000 points" - when they were giving away points like crazy in the 80's. Ciccerelli is a joke. Nieuwendyk is really borderline - was he a first ballot HHOF-er? Never a first or second team all star. His best seasons he was the 16th leading scorer. He was a good goal scorer for the first few years of his career. He was 5th in goal scoring twice in his career. In comparison, Bure was 1st in goal scoring three times and he was also 3rd and 5th in other years. And who is the Hall of Famer?
July 20, 2011
Votes: +1

Jason Banks said:

Jason_Banks
HHOF Criteria How about we make it more exclusive...

The Criteria for Players be the similer for Builders, what have you done for and to the game for the advancement or growth of the game in any/all aspects. And where you a Legend in your era? Take most of the stats out of this unless you achived something trully amazing, 800 goals, 2000 points, 100 shutouts, 5+ Stanley Cups, 5 Norris Trophys ect...

Examples:

Mogilny, jumping from Russia earns him a spot...
Tretiack being the best goalie in Russia and contrubuting in a major way to growing the sport in Russia earns him a spot he wouldn't get...
Billy Smith change the way Goalies played the position for the next 30-40 years...

I love Doug Gilmore... but was he a legend, not really he had about 4 very good years and was an average top 6 half his career, the other half he was a bottom 6 role playing guy...
July 19, 2011
Votes: +0
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