Some rumors making the rounds that Tomas Vokoun has expressed interest in playing for the Avalanche. They are one of the few teams that have a legitimate need for him and that could pony up the cash to pay him what he wants.

 

Congrats to Team WC17 for winning the DobberHockey Playoff Pool!

 

WC17, please contact me ( This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it ) to claim your prize - a fully customizable jersey from Cool Hockey.

 

Second place (Dunnder), and third place (Made in Kariya) - contact me to claim your prizes as well. Great work fellas.

 

The Prospects Report update - our fate is now in the hands of one Matthew Bugg. When he revises his Mock based on the final order and adds a third round, this can be re-released. Today? Tomorrow? Soon!

 

Toronto! Tonight! - come celebrate the launching of Dobber Sports with Dobber, Justin Goldman, the Goalie Post's Jeff Hillen and fellow hockey fans! If you don't like talking about your fantasy hockey team over beer and nachos, then don't come! Dobber is looking forward to meeting many of you and see how he helped/hurt your fantasy squad this year. Sports Centre Cafe at Yonge and St. Clair at 6pm on into the night. Be there any time after 6pm!


Love this gem from Elliotte Friedman's latest column:


"Don't know a ton about potential Dallas coach Glen Gulutzan. Another AHL bench boss texted me a quick scouting report: "Great guy. Quiet and a hard worker...Smart team play. Organized." What also can't hurt is he had Jamie Benn playing like a beast in the playoffs last year."

 

As you all know, I am a huge Jamie Benn fan. I think he has a good (60-70 percent) chance at scoring 35-40 goals next season. His production depends on where he lines up (I think Dallas likes him more at center for the same reasons Philadelphia likes Giroux more at center - they get more of the puck). With no Richards, Benn would probably line up with Eriksson on a scoring line.

 

Thinking out loud - does a Jeff Carter/Luongo swap make sense? Fills a need on each team. Gives Luongo a fresh start in a market that needs a starting goalie. Frees up Cory Schneider to prove he is as good as many think. Gives the Canucks a legitimate scoring winger and someone to play with Kesler. Similar cap hits and contract lengths.

 

I went into a bit of an anti-Luongo tirade on twitter after game seven. I was a bit emotional, obviously, but I feel the same now as I did then. He isn't the player to win in this market. Too moody, to mercurial, whatever it is, I'm not really sure. I am aware that he had almost no goal support against Boston, but this marks the fourth straight year that he comes up short when it matters the most.

 

Even if this trade is just a pipe dream, Vancouver's number one need is a winger for Kesler. The helicoptor line (no wings, get it) he was on all season broke down when he did. Samuelsson and Raymond are solid players but neither are good enough to stick with Kesler.

 

How about Michael Grabner?

 

I am surprised that MacT has yet to land a job - fantastic coach who gets his players to play hard for him. Minnesota opted to go with Mike Yeo (coached in Houston this year), another NHL rookie head coach. Yeo won a Cup with the Penguins in 2009, along with current Minnesota GM Chuck Fletcher. Obviously a connection there.

 

The final CBC montage for 2010/11:

 


Write comment
Comments (21)add comment

Rusty Pickles said:

Rusty Pickles
... Carter will not be traded for Luongo...There, parade rained on........again? too soon?

Also not mentioned:

1) Philly tried to sign Kesler away on an offer sheet, by rule of thumb these two teams now working out a "makes total sense" deal at least to nucks fans and fantasy addicts from a value standpoint is a sheer and certain impossibility. NHL GMs are bitter folk and have long memories. Philly and Vancouver will not trade large pieces until one of the two gms is gone.

2) If Carter is traded for a goalie it will be a young one named Schneider or Bernier. Yes, I know this contradicts statement one but if a rule is going to be broken it is going to be for a young number 1. Not an old one. Bobrovsky would then be traded. There is a chance if Bryzgalov is signed he is traded as well.

3) Philly is not handcuffed to trading Carter as much as everyone likes to believe. In fact, I feel they will try very hard NOT to move him. (mass waivings, trade carle/coburn/hartnell/versteeg or a combination thereof first.

I could keep going but I'll stop lol
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

JULES said:

itzjules
... Phillys window of oppurtunity coincides with Luongo's prime years left, and he can always retire if there are years left on his contract and he is rendered useless. No problem there.

There is however a problem with bringing a long contract like that in amongst your young future star Bobrovsky. Flyers will look for a shorter term deal around 4-5 years. Giving Bob a chance to mature in AHL/split in NHL on the last year of their UFA goalie signing.

RE: Carter. Carter works best at center. He is not good at transitioning on the wing at all, and he doesn't get to take shots from the areas he likes playing the sides. The problem here is, that all of Richards, Briere, and Giroux are a better option down the middle than Carter is, as fortunate as that is. I like the suggestion of trying Richards on wing. Perhaps with Leino possibly moving on, a good defensive cover-up/replacement for Briere to have..

I would still look to move Carter over the popular choice of Carle right now though..
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

Pengwin7 said:

Pengwin7
Vokoun to COL? I can see it.
Milan Hejduk (Czech) just re-signed for a year.
Vokoun & Hejduk are the same age (born in 1976)... I'm sure they've talked some.

Idea was posted in the Edmonton Journal, sourced from a Czech paper.
http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2011/06/16/should-the-oilers-go-after-tomas-vokoun/
based on Vokoun's reply to a question.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

Pengwin7 said:

Pengwin7
Carter at Wing: 1 Vote I think Carter is a better fit at wing. He typically has a G:A ratio around 1:1.
I'm a fan of having your center be a playmaker, assist-heavy. Carter has a tremendous shot, but I'd rather have a Richards/Giroux/Briere carry the offensive zone and find Carter's stick for the shot. If Carter had better assist totals, I might be inclined to think of him as a center. 162 assists in 461 NHL games ~ 29A per 82g season. Meh.

Carter has more valuable, IMO, at wing.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

bluejays said:

bluejays
... Good points Tim, but remember the 11 yr deal is just formality, he will be bought out of course. So your reading into that too much. Philly can roster 3 good lines, so the trading of a Carter for a bonfide starter is worth their while. It seems like grabbing a tender is all that is left for them to do to become an elite team.
Vancouver would should welcome it (although they won't admit it now), as they trade salary and replace Luo for Schneider who some say is just as good already.
I know some of the premier radio sports stations were kicking tires on a Kipper-Carter deal, which I'd welcome in a minute.
Something that should of been addressed in the Phaneuf deal.
Who knows, but there is an argument for it.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

Tim Lucarelli said:

duballstar014
... Sure, Carter for Lou makes sense for Vancouver. But not for Philadelphia.

Luongo is already 32 years old for one thing. Besides his age, he has played five seasons in Vancouver and Canucks fans would already rather have Schneider in goal. Further, Luongo is signed for another 11 years.

Carter is only 26 years old, so while he has the same number of years left on his contract, he'll be six years younger once it's over, and between the two of them, I'd put odds on Carter being more effective at the end of the deal.

Yes, Philadelphia does want a legitimate goaltender, but acquiring Bryzgalov's rights for a third round pick does not mean that they need to sign to an 11 year contract. Far from it. At most, they're looking at a 5 year deal. Yes, they want a legitimate goalie now, but acquiring a 32 year old goaltender with 11 years remaining on his contract doesn't seem to make much sense at all. What the Flyers really want is Bryzgalov signed to a 3-4 year deal where Bryz runs the show the first two years. In the final 1-2 years of the contract, they'll let the hot hand play, which could very well be Bobrovsky.

If that deal doesn't work out for Bryz, then they'll explore other avenues, but I highly doubt it would be Luongo and his contract, even if they were moving Carter.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

bluejays said:

bluejays
... Richards at wing? Never.
Carter for Lou does make sense, on multiple points. Even if Luo won, Schneider is ready and its apparent. They have to do something win or loose.
Bob is not the goalie for Philly, why else would they make a play for Ilya's rights? they had a top media guy on the radio the day of, and they said, they want a star in the net (and they should), so something will be done. Vancouver seems like a perfect fit, and could you imagine Kinsler with Carter on line 2? Wow.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

Tim Lucarelli said:

duballstar014
Carter Carter is not better at wing, he's better at center. They've been trying him at wing all year and he didn't do anything to impress. His best hockey was at center and the ONLY time he looked good on the RW was when he had Claude Giroux as a center.

If the Flyers keep Briere, Giroux, Carter, and Richards, it would be interesting to see Richards line up on LW and keep Carter at center.

Carter for Luongo doesn't make sense to me at all. The Flyers view Bobrovsky as their goalie of the future so they wouldn't want to have a goalie in front of him who carries a contract that long. It'd be different if they weren't so adamant about Bobrovsky being their guy.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +1

Andrew Reichheld said:

sportsmaster4vr
... I dont know why all this Luongo trade talk is occuring. If Vancouver won Game 7 there would be no doubt he is the goalie for them.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

bluejays said:

bluejays
... I think Lou for Carter would be a very beneficial move for both clubs. Lots of potential. Elliot F. from CBC was saying there is clearly a love-hate relationship right now between Lou and fans of Vancouver.

Still very upset and disappointed in the rioters. The spectators who stuck around to take cellphone videos even more ridiculous as they effectively protected the rioters from the riot police. Like seriously, go home, go to a pub and drown your sorrows, go to a buddies, whatever, but to damage property or harm innocent police is stupid. I know it does not change the fact, but I still think there should of been way more police presence and should of been much more aggressive. They should try their best to prosecute those caught on images. Vancouver is a very nice city and those who ruined it for many and should be ashamed.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +1

Pengwin7 said:

Pengwin7
It will always feel that way "I am aware that he had almost no goal support against Boston, but this marks the fourth straight year that he comes up short when it matters the most."

smilies/smiley.gif
You would've said this if Vancouver had lost game 7 to Chicago. (but he won 2-1)
You would've said this if Vancouver had lost game 6 (&7) to NAS. (but he won 2-1)
You would've said this if Vancouver had lost game 5 (&6&7) to SJ. (but he won 3-2)

He is the right goalie for Vancouver, and I think he'll get that Cup someday.
Vancouver takes a small step forward every year. Just one step left.

It's not broke. Don't fix it.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

Kevin said:

mrmojorisin
Luongo Vancouver scored 8 goals in 7 games - enough said.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

Repent Tokyo said:

repenttokyo
also why would luongo want to backup bryzgalov?
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

Repent Tokyo said:

repenttokyo
find it hard to believe people blame luongo when his team couldn't even score. is he supposed to do that for Vancouver, too?
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

Jeremy said:

onthebeach96
Toronto party... I was hoping to get out tonight to the big party, but I'm leaving tonight for my cottage so I can play golf bright and early tomorrow morning then hit the beach in the afternoon. Ironically I'm at Yonge and St.Clair right now at my girlfriend's place.

I think that Vancouver should keep Luongo, I think he took the next step in getting to the finals and he will be better next season for it! Pitt's Fleury got to the finals and lost, but the very next season won it all so who's to say that can't happen with Luongo in Vancouver's net?! Trading Luongo would be a bad move in my opinion but I do agree that Kesler needs at least one decent winger!

Have fun tonight everyone, lots of good beer and conversations to be had!
June 17, 2011 | url
Votes: +0

ultrawhiteness said:

ultrawhiteness
errr... if Luongo can't cut it in Vancouver, he'll be DOA in Philly. they'll eat him.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

Draft Dodger said:

steve_oshp
Luongo I think you have to lay some of the blame on Luongo for the fact the Canucks didn't score enough. Playing a good defensive team with a hot goalie, you have to take chances to score. I imagine the Canucks had little confidence that Luongo would bail them out if they got caught pinching or staying too deep in Boston's zone, and were scared to make a mistake.
I think though that you give Luongo another chance. Let Schneider and him battle for the top job in training camp, much like Thomas and Rask last year, if Luongo wins it great. Give Schneider maybe a few more starts than he got this year, and hand him the starters job mid-year if he earns it. If not, start Luongo in the playoffs. But the first time he has to be pulled from a game you start Schneider the next game and leave him in if he proves he's up to it.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

mike ormerod said:

mormerod
Ward Vancouver needs to go after J. Ward. If it costs them signing a D (let Salo walk, he walked all the way through the playoffs), fine. I'd actually put him with The Bella twins, and put Burrows with Kesler, they play well together.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

timothysmith said:

timothysmith
Luongo isn't good? I have to admit, I'm a bit baffled by all the 'trade Luongo' talk and the idea that he has once again 'come up short'. He destroyed teams in the regular season. He had his ups and downs in the playoffs obviously, but he went to game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals against a team that was clearly playing better hockey than the Canucks (I'm a Canucks fan, it gives me no joy to admit that but it's true, Boston looked much better than us in games 3-7 and we only won game 5 because Luongo stood on his head). How can you look at a goalie that just helped his team get to GAME SEVEN OF THE STANLEY CUP FINALS and complain that he's never going to get it done? Do you think there's a different goalie somewhere that you could put in that would help the Canucks win a 5-0 game? Is Cory Schneider going to start scoring too? It's just my opinion, but I think it's madness to focus on Luongo as a problem this year after the year the Canucks just had (best team in the regular season, second best in the playoffs, seems good to me). The Canucks fall asleep in big games, particularly big games on rival ice. Do you think a new goalie is going to change that? If we are going to look at every goalie that hasn't won a Stanley Cup on a good team and say they have "come up short" and should be traded, then pretty much every good goalie in the league is going to have to be traded, no?
June 17, 2011
Votes: +2

Robert Esquire said:

bullwinkle
Trade Luongo Trading Luongo was the first thing that entered my mind after the Cup was presented. This guy is going nowhere in Vancouver. Trading him for a good winger will give Schneider the time he needs to show he's a true nr. 1 goaltender in this league plus give the Canucks further scoring power - or maybe a shutdown defenseman.

I'm glad Vancouver lost - the Sabres are my team and I want to beat them to the Cup - but this does seem like a good move for Vancouver.
June 17, 2011
Votes: +0

Nate said:

Nate
Luongo Carter A Carter for Luongo swap makes perfect sense. In fact, in a perfect world, it would be the perfect trade, fulfilling each teams glaring need, and giving Schneider a chance to prove himself.

So that's exactly why it will never happen. lol
June 17, 2011
Votes: +1
You must be logged in to post a comment. Please register if you do not have an account yet.

busy