Fantasy Prospects Report - buy it here.

 

Raymond may have a fractured vertebrae. He could be out 4-6 months, which puts November as the best case scenario.

 

Things I hate, Part 6546544351: After every goal that Luongo let in, 50 people made the “Thomas would have had that” joke on Twitter. It wasn’t really that funny if one person did it.

 

The guy gives a serious answer, breaking down the play and indicating that it was a shot he would have had, and then he goes on to say there are plenty of shots that he let in that Thomas would have had. But the Boston media cuts and pasts the first part of the comment and blows it out of proportion. The sad thing is, if Thomas said those things then the Vancouver media would have done the same thing.

 

Anyway, I hope nobody was shocked at the outcome. As I said yesterday, I had already invited the guys over for Game 7 on Wednesday.

 

I was, however, shocked at the speed of the goals. You see, the opening stuff was dragging on, so I ran into my office to do another player profile or two (I am doing a few teams for the Score Forecaster this year again). I came back about six minutes into the first and it was 2-0. So then I thought, bah, I’ll just put my daughter to bed – no need to ask the wife to do it. I come back downstairs five minutes later and it’s 4-0! I missed all four goals that period.

 

Tim Thomas wins the Conn Smythe regardless of the Game 7 outcome.

 

Three assists for the Recching Ball. That’s beautiful. The guy knows what it takes – after seven assists in 18 playoff games he has six in six in the Final. He’s played 105 games this season and has 61 points. Not bad for 43 years old.

 

I love that Nathan Horton was at the game waving a towel and cheering on his mates. I hate…well…

 

Things I hate, Part 6546544352: When Horton waved the towel, 500 people were quick to update me on Twitter. Yeah, if you follow too many people, you get overkill on some things…take the good with the bad, I guess.

 

How about that Michael Ryder? 17 points – talk about upping your free agency value!

 

As soon as Boston scored the fourth goal, I’m sending Ryan Kesler to the dressing room. The guy is playing on one leg. Let him maximize his chance of getting just a little better for Game 7.

 

The Conn Smythe favorite six games ago, Kesler is pointless in five and a minus-5 in that span.

 

Mason Raymond was taken to hospital after hitting the boards awkwardly. Very tough to see, he folded over weird…clip below.

 

Don’t forget, Toronto – Sports Centre Café at Yonge and St. Claire, Friday June 17 at 6pm going on until whenever – a DobberHockey celebration! Justin Goldman and I will be celebrating the acquisition of GoaliePost.com and would like you to join us! Come on by for a drink, introduce yourself, let’s talk some puck! Jeff Hillen, creator of the Goalie Post and Gus Katsaros from McKeen’s will also be there.

 

Dobber Sports Facebook page

 

TSN reports that Winnipeg will be reviewing candidates for the coaching job – including current coach Craig Ramsay.

 

Upcoming on DobberHockey: Live Chats for Day 1 and Day 2 of the Draft, June 24 and 25. Also a Live Chat for July 1 – UFA Day (well, okay, Canada Day too). Look forward to seeing you partake…

 

Ottawa has hired Paul MacLean as their head coach. He was the assistant in Detroit, and I think most assistants there of late have turned out to be pretty good coaches. Interesting sidebar: On my original roster of my 22-year-old keeper league, I drafted Paul MacLean. He had 67 points that year, but then he had 17 and never played again. So not the best pick for a keeper league…

 

Anze Kopitar is still targeting late July to get back on the ice.

 

Minor signings – St. Louis re-signs Chris Porter. Pittsburgh re-signs Ryan Craig (two-way deal).

 

Changes coming in terms of head-shots. Funny seeing Shanahan and Schneider in suits answering questions on behalf of the NHL:

 

 

Mason Raymond’s injury:

 

 


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Sanstanya said:

sanstanya
... @Adrian Keogh
To be sure I was reading the unmodified. A message got through.

And as much as I'm not a Luongo fan I would rather see Marcand bleed to death on the ice in front of millions of people than your version of what "Luongo deserves."

And just because there's more pent up rant than I know what to do with...between the Bruins crappy "old school" bush league intimidation-over-talent hockey, the Cancuks only playing half the games, and the league's 3 stooges, make-it-up-as-we-go management it's been the worst SC Final I can remember. F this crap I can't wait for major junior hockey next year so I can be excited about watching games instead of having to fight being drawn in to media-contrived bullshit reality show pseudo-drama.

And yet I'm stll making a point of being in Vancouver to watch game 7 because I'm like an addict after being there for that Olympic gold game. Now it's all about trying to recapture that atmosphere. What a chump.
June 15, 2011
Votes: +0

Adrian Keogh said:

Goalin Crazy UK
Haha Content can be manipulated by the horribly biased board managers here, yet the true message still gets through ;o)
May Luo give up 7 in the first and get everything he deserves!
June 15, 2011
Votes: +0

Sanstanya said:

sanstanya
... @Adrian Keogh
The internet is so awkward for interpretting intent so I can't tell if you did that on purpose or not...but you made my frickin' day! Nothing says awesome like that degree of epic irony! Way to "come across" - ha!
June 14, 2011
Votes: +1

Adrian Keogh said:

Goalin Crazy UK
Luongo Maybe its because he came across as the nice person that he is?
June 14, 2011
Votes: -2

Sanstanya said:

sanstanya
final point? @Maxmimus

I could be wrong but without checking I think Vancouver has 4 Swedes (twins, Edler, Samuelsson) and 5 US listed players (Kesler, Higgins, Alberts, Schneider, and Ballard if they let him share) on the roster right now that could be expected to get time with the cup. There are at least 15 Canadians, plus a Dane, a German and Fin (which sounds like a bad joke). Pretty sure the cup will not spend "most" of the year in Sweden and the US if Vancouver wins. Unless you're reasoning is based on Vancouver having an even greater proportion of cup-sharing coaches/staff from those 2 countries, which I would just have to take your word for I guess.
June 14, 2011
Votes: +0

Maximus said:

Mr Zizzla
Stretcher's and hits and @Chris @ Sanstanya and Curtis
I saw a very similar thing happen at an London @ Owen Sound game this year. a player got knocked out and was literally dragged off the ice, from the complete opposite end too, and carried to the dressing room. i couldn't believe that at the OHL level they didn't have a stretcher there let alone at the NHL level.

2 players were holding him up because the medical staff thought he had come to and at about the red line, his legs gave out and his skates were dragging as his head dropped into his chest. probably one of the worst practices i have ever seen by any medical staff anywhere, it was pathetic.

As for the hit on Raymond vs. Horton vs. Peverley:
This all comes down to respect for each other which at this point, these teams clearly do not have.

if Raymond wasn't bent over like that, he would be fine. personally i think Boychuk let up slightly as you could see him look over his shoulder at the play, and there was no "driving his head into the boards" or "he was trying to hurt Raymond and he DID" type of BS as others are suggesting. it was an awkward play that had an unfortunate ending.
No suspension required.

Edler's hit on Peverley to me was much more malicious. Edler saw that he was beat and instead of attacking the puck he went straight into Peverley. all of you complaining about how nasty Boychuk's hit was without discussing Edler's must all be Canuck homers because one was an awkward play and one was INTENT TO INJURE. give your heads a shake and take off your blue and green glasses when you watch the replays. To me, that should've been 5 and a game.

Rome's hit on Horton was called exactly right, with 5 and a game. there should not have been a suspension on that ESPECIALLY 4 games. i could understand if they added 1 game to prove a point but 4 was just ridiculous! i am still baffled by that especially if you equate 1 playoff game to be 2 regular season games as that did not deserve 8 games! crazy.

@ Chris
Are you serious?
"The leauges rigged! after 30 yrs of being an NHL fan its sad to say that this will be my final one watching and playing fantasy.
Hopefully the canucks are the lucky ones to have the leauge hand them the trophy after 20 yrs out of canada but thats the price to pay when the corporate big wigs need to sell to america.
Good by my once beautiful sport. "
How is the league rigged? I don't understand your babblings on this one. it's rigged because Vancouver/Boston can't win on the road? You, my friend, are nuts! I hope you were drunk+ when you wrote that because if that's what you truly believe then MY BEAUTIFUL SPORT doesn't need "fans" like you. You should've gave up then when Hull's foot was in Hasek's crease and no one went upstairs. This series has been absolutely tremendous.

One final point: Do you realize that the cup is in Canada for 11 months out of the year? In fact, if the Bruins win it will spend more time in Canada than if the Canucks win as it will spend most of the time in Sweden and the USA.
June 14, 2011
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Sanstanya said:

sanstanya
Stretcher @Curtis
I actually have no idea what the protocol is there and am probably just being overly sensitive because I've worked in 1st aid and emergency response roles and hate seeing people allowed to get up when they shouldn't.

In most work environments, if something severe happens to somebody it is generally the practice that only a trained professional is qualified to assess the potential risk to the individual and they assume control of "transport" decisions. If that measn Canucks staff are required to request that and didn't then they blew it. If it meass that on-duty attendants should have more authority to make that call but don't, then somebody else is blowing it there too. I don't care that much whose fault it is (and maybe wasnt't careful enough in my wording) let's just not let it happen. Whatever the reason, Raymond getting up is bush-league.

Whatever the protocol is in the NHL it might need to be reviewed if guys with broken vertebrae are "skating" off.
June 14, 2011
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Jaxx said:

Jaxx
edler on peverley....... that hit was much worse than boychuk on raymond......... but only a 2 minute minor and no talk of league action. it is game 7 after all..... smilies/wink.gif
June 14, 2011
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Curtis Curve said:

tcescon
Stretcher @Sanstanya
I hope you do not seriously believe that if the Canucks med staff had asked for a stretcher that the TD Garden officials declined their request. This isn't the KHL. Come on.
June 14, 2011
Votes: +1

Curtis Curve said:

tcescon
... Can we now put the "he shouldn't have put himself in the position to be hit like that" argument to bed once and for all? Heard a lot of it after Game 3, and if it was viable then, it could be considered viable now depending on your rooting interests. Lots of similarities in outcry b/w the two hits (puck not around, player in vulnerable position, etc.) That reasoning should never be used when serious injuries like Horton's and Raymond's result. Let's focus our venom where it belongs; towards the player's overall lack of respect for each other, and to the league that seems to at worst encourage, and at the least accept, repeated dangerous career threatening violence. Until there are serious repurcussions to the offending players, it will continue to escalate.
You either take late and head hits out of the game or you risk losing players on your team to incidents like these. You cannot have it both ways.
June 14, 2011
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Sanstanya said:

sanstanya
Raymond etc. @Jaxx
I'm not convinced it was suspension-worthy eitehr (though I am open to the possibility if someone can show me), but I'm also no more convinced that Rome's hit was worth a suspension. I do think both were at least interference. I am convinced that I no longer have the slightest idea on any given play what the on or off ice league officials will interpret. It's pretty disconcerting that I feel like I can't know. What I am starting to conclude is if a spine board comes out or you hit your head that's worse than any other outcome OR action/intent. That doesn't seem right.

Speaking of which, when Raymond isn't moving, why doesn't the Boston medical staff on duty bring out stretcher. Guy has a broken vertebrae and is obviously seriously hurt and has to get up and skate off? How many more ways can we redefine bush-league in this series? Getting painful to watch.

@Nate
I hear you - I did it once already when the game got so bad I couldn't watch it anymore. Took about 8 years off and only came back when they seemingly started to get it together again. I won't ever give up hockey entirely, but I would defintely consider going full-time to my local major-junior and just not bother hooking my cable up in the fall (I only have it on during the NHL season).
June 14, 2011
Votes: -1

Nate said:

Nate
Raymond Hit If you watch closely, right at the very end of the hit at the 4 second mark, you can CLEARLY see Boychuck PUSH him ass first into the boards with his body.

He was trying to hurt Raymond and he DID. END OF STORY
June 14, 2011
Votes: -2

Chris said:

5hole
NHL = 3M$ a home game racketeering The leauges rigged! after 30 yrs of being an NHL fan its sad to say that this will be my final one watching and playing fantasy.
Hopefully the canucks are the lucky ones to have the leauge hand them the trophy after 20 yrs out of canada but thats the price to pay when the corporate big wigs need to sell to america.
Good by my once beautiful sport.
June 14, 2011
Votes: -3

Jaxx said:

Jaxx
no suspension required.... .... just a hockey play, unfortunate as it is. if raymond was upright, there would be no issue here. its certainly not his fault that he wasn't upright - reason being he was off balance because of the collision with boychuk after both of them pursuing a loose puck. it was a short tie up by a defenceman, then raymond losing his balance and being rode into the boards....he wasn't RAMMED into the boards... it was simply bad luck for raymond.......
June 14, 2011
Votes: +2

Chad Williams said:

johnnyimpala
Raymond Looks similar to the Chara hit, no puck and he rode him until he crumpled him to the boards. This was first shift of the game and Boychuk wanted to destroy someone and did.
June 14, 2011
Votes: +1

Sanstanya said:

sanstanya
@Sean Peterson Wow - and what do I sense? "They were tangled up..."? Exactly how did that come to be? It looks to me like Boychuk "tangled" Raymond up (possibly with a hook) then once he was corkscrewed around backwards and bent over, rode him 10 feet awkwardly into the boards. By that time the puck was nowhere near and it didn't look like Raymond ever touched it, thanks to Boychuck "tangling" him up. It's happening so much slower than, say, Rome's hit on Horton and there's plenty of time to make a good decision, but one isn't made. By Boychuk or a ref on the ice. If that's not a dangerous and unnecessary play I can't imagine what is. We are becoming so choosy about these - only if your head bounces off the ice is it a terrbile play, but if the actions are worse, yet the outcome is luckier, well no harm no foul right? F-ing garbage man - no friggin conistency in these playoffs at all, and certainly none in this series.
June 14, 2011
Votes: -2

Sean Peterson said:

Plus1Plus1
Raymond Ummm, they went tangled up together into the boards...

Do I sense Canuck-fan-desperation setting in?
June 14, 2011
Votes: +0

Austin said:

austeane
Raymond He is out 4-6 months... Just wondering how there is no review? Puck is gone for probably a second (same as Rome) and with Rome's suspension the injury DEFINITELY factored in. If that hit happened and his head did not hit the ice there would mayyybe have been a 2 minute interference penalty.

This time there is no puck and it was late and he is out with a fractured vertebrae... Not even a review and no penalty. Hmmmm.....
June 14, 2011
Votes: +2
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