Rumors out of Vancouver today that Hamhuis has been suffering (to put it lightly) from a ruptured testicle. I was told it was mid-section/rib related last week, and after hearing this I hope it is. I can't even begin to fathom how painful a ruptured testicle would be.

 

Again, just a rumor, but would explain his lack of skating (and talking to the media, I think an octave or two higher would be a dead giveaway).

 

Two-year extension for Grant Clitsome - $1.25 million per.

 

Justin Bourne breaks down the game tonight - solid analysis.

 

One week from today - DobberHockey will be having an event in Toronto at Yonge and St. Clair at the Sports Centre Cafe! Come meet Dobber, Goldman, Lancione and talk some fantasy hockey/ enjoy some pops on a nice Friday evening after the Cup is won...

 

The old adage "you are never in trouble in the playoffs until you lose at home" may be tested tonight in Vancouver.

 

The Bruins will win if:

 

  • They continue to turn the series into a physical, chippy, dirty, post-whistle affair.
  • Tim Thomas sees the puck as well as he has over the past two games (thanks in large part to strong defensive clears on rebounds)
  • Vancouver's defense continues to keep a Red Sea-like gap on defense (they need to step up much faster on the Boston forwards and force them into making plays)
  • They win the special teams battle.

 

The Canucks will win if:

 

  • They get their once lethal PP back on track, and actually punish the Bruins for taking physical/undisciplined penalties
  • Roberto Luongo rises to the occasion as he has done multiple times this spring
  • They ignore the post-whistle stuff, the hacks and whacks that Boston is employing so effectively.
  • They get traffic in front of Thomas and make him move. Pucks to the net won't do the trick, in fact it may do the opposite and get Thomas comfortable.
  • Their defensemen HIT THE NET with point shots.
  • Someone steps up on the back end. Kevin Bieksa doesn't look like himself without Hamhuis. Edler and Ehrhoff have both been struggling.
  • Someone other than Sedin/Kesler get invovled. Sedins have been shut down, but they are going against a Vezina and Norris finalist on each and every shift.

 

Dean Youngblood, one of the most respected forum contributers for both his knowledge and his passion, has put together a mock draft for 2011 - his top 10 selections. Or his full mock (and still being added to) right here.

 

Goldie Says: My latest on NHL.com looks at Luongo's crumbling confidence. Great deal for Reimer and his owners. I take a look at his potential next season as well.

 

Fantasy Prospects Report - buy it here.

 

Gates Imbeau and I will be rolling out a comparative Top 10 Keeper League Peripheral Players List. We will be ranking the top 10 hits/blocked shots combo players. I hope/think that these two stats will find their way into all leagues within the next few years.

 

Hits isn’t a perfect stat, and the number is skewed from arena to arena (some statisticians are more liberal with handing them out). However, unlike PIM, it actually measures something positive.

 

Some questions from the Dobber Sports Facebook page yesterday…

 

I'm interested in a comparison of Sam Gagner and Kyle Okposo in a standard roto league. What do you think their two year high/low looks like. Is a breakout coming for either of them? Does Okposo receive a huge edge in any stat other than PIM?


Gagner – I thought a breakout was coming this past year. His production at the NHL level has been impressive considering his age and the lack of talent around him. I still think he will become a solid 60-70 point center.

 

Okposo – probably a second line player on the Islanders, 25-30 goals depending on PP time. Hard, heavy shot, and a very responsible defensive player. I’d give him the edge in SOG and G as well.

 

Is Markstrom still the top goalie prospect long-term given what Robin Lehner has done lately? Is it just hype for Lehner? In any case, what is the gap in upside, certainty and general fantasy value between Markstrom and any other goalie prospect?


I’d put Markstrom in that top group with Lehner and Eddie Lack. The three are interchangeable to me. Markstrom’s season stats aren’t impressive, but he got better each and every month. So much depends on opportunity, as well. Look at opportunity (Reimer, Bobrovsky) compared to skill (Schneider, Bernier). Takes both to take off.

 

I'd like to know which of the disappointing top end dual eligibility wingers you see bouncing back next year and why or why not (off the top of my head I can think of three that fit the category: Heatley, Nash and Kovalchuk).


Heatley – zero confidence in him. Injuries seem to have derailed his star offensive upside. Nash – finally has a center in Johansen, but how long will he take to become an NHL talent? Kovalchuk – everything that could have gone wrong did. If the Devils sign/trade for a legit puck moving defenseman, I like Kovalchuk to bounce back.

 

Brayden Schenn vs. RHN - which prospect would you prefer on your fantasy squad?


RNH. Schenn is the best drafted prospect in the world, but he won’t be for long.

 

Some GMs view their teams as fluid, and act more like penny stock traders than investors. So my question is when a GM should start selling competent but older stars like Martin St. Louis for optimal returns?


I have never believed in a full-scale rebuild. Using my golden rules for trading (quality over quantity, don’t overrate unproven players, use a maximum of a three-year scope, and don’t sell low or buy high), and you should be in contention each and every season.

 

In a 12 team keeper (keep 6) G A PPP SHP FW SOG +/- GWG. I own Getzlaf, Perry and Hiller. Was thinking about offering up my D Sedin for Bobby Ryan to own all 3. Is that a good idea or foolhardy. I know Sedin will outperform Ryan for the next year or 2 but those 3 are a machine.


Not a good idea. Don’t overpay in general, but especially don’t overpay to load up on one team. Hasn’t proven itself to be a beneficial strategy, and Sedin is about as money as it gets at the LW position.

 

”Like” the Dobber Sports Facebook page and receive all the latest news of the progress of the fantasy hockey empire that I am building, as well as details of all my events, pictures and…well, not even I know what more we’ll do with it. But you can help shape what some of the sites of this network becomes.

 

Could be the first thing Stan Fischler has ever said that I agree with!

 

StanFischler @TheGoalieGuild "Enjoyed" is an understatement. That was as brilliant an analysis as I've ever read about a goalie in the finals. Congrats.


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Jerry said:

CallMeJerry
D pairing Wouldn't Hamhuis Salo make a good pair? (I'll be here all week - try the veal)
June 10, 2011
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Repent Tokyo said:

repenttokyo
dobbery hockey is whatever you want it to be 1-967-OK-FACE
June 10, 2011
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Jerry said:

CallMeJerry
say what? So 2 paragraphs into the ramblings, there's a testicle and a clitsome - is this a hockey board or Penthouse Forum?
June 10, 2011
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Repent Tokyo said:

repenttokyo
it happened to salo and it could happen to you!
June 10, 2011
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mick said:

hawkdog
... ruptured ball? with a cup on? Seems like a stretch.
June 10, 2011
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Nate said:

Nate
Sedin vs Ryan Great ramblings!

Gotta disagree with the Sedin for Ryan thing though. If you can squeak in another player or a draft pick I'd seriously consider moving Sedin for Ryan if you have Getzlaf and Perry. That could very well be the #1 line in hockey next year and beyond. But you would need another piece to mitigate the risk.
June 10, 2011
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Sanstanya said:

sanstanya
... @Bender
I wish that were true. I want to see good hockey with less bullshit. I'm not seeing it right now.
June 10, 2011
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Bender said:

baconnol
... @Sanstanya
I guess we both see what we want to see. To steal a line from Seinfeld, "Cantstandya Sanstanya!"
June 10, 2011
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Repent Tokyo said:

repenttokyo
one man wolf pack so you are comfortable with the idea that someone in your pool could enjoy an advantage by picking players who play in a building where stats keepers are generous towards the home team and stingy towards the visitors?

including stats like hits and blocked shots doesn't have anything to do with researching players - it has to do with knowing the individual biases of the rinks they play in, and then taking that into account. It's not related to what a player might actually be doing or not doing on the ice, so it's not a question of doing player homework.

If you want to research into stuff that has nothing to do with the game, then fine, but I prefer to rely on stats that are actually tied-in to what is happening on the ice, not what is happening in the head of a non-NHL employee who has no vested interest in being objective.
June 10, 2011
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One Man Wolf Pack said:

One Man Wolf Pack
Peripherals in League Formats I am completely in favor of all peripheral stats, regardless of how they are determined/collected/assigned/calculated. It forces Fantasy Hockey owner to really research players, teams, etc. in order to determine who gets you the best points. In my league specifically, stats like this truly separate the owners who live for fantasy hockey and those who just participate. Preparing for the upcoming draft is my favorite part of competing in my league. I measure my self against those other owners who are in the "live for it" category and by doing my homework and digging into the specific peripherals to the point where my eyes are bugging out of my head and my brain is fried is the difference between making a run for it year in and year out or hanging in the cellar with the other "participants."

Just my opinion on the subject...but to each his own.
June 10, 2011
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Sanstanya said:

sanstanya
... @Bender
yeah most people see what they want to see. It seems pretty evident to me in listening to both sides.

@Maximus
Intersting to conclude that Boston's march to the box is somehow pro-Canuck bias rather than a direct result of their style of play. That implies that in any "appropriately" officated game penalties should generally be dead even. The league loves to do that but it doesn't make it right. The whole hockey world knows that is how Boston plays, so it is OK to accept they maybe should be more heavily penalized than their opponents. The team knows this and accepts it as part of their game - why don't some fans? Like I said, people see what they want to see I think.

The troubling part as a hockey fan is the BS of it all - officials already warned both teams about post-ice scrums and how they would take 1 guy and punish a team for those antics. Since then what I see is Boston iniating a bunch of scrum garbage (and Vancouver losing their cool and participating when they shouldn't since that really isn't their game) and the refs mostly giving offsetting penalties...thus encouraging Boston to continue as there is no real consequence. I normally look forward to playoff hockey all year but I can't say that I will remember how "epic" and great this final was. Pretty weak compared to many and officiating is part of that for me. I like good tough physical hiockey but spare me all the facewash bullshit after every whistle - especially when there is nothing real to react to. Jumping a Sedin because he's standing motionless 12 feet from your goalie is for what exactly? Piss off with that let's play hockey. Now if a guy actually does something then sure get in there, muck it up. It's the contrived scrums that bug me. Not interested.

I can send you bruin head-whips on non-contact plays that got them pp's if you really need them. They're are every bit as prevalent. I would prefer neither team employed that but both are and it's nothing new - this rabid fascination that Vancouver has somehow invented this idea just this playoff run is ridiclous. It's been happening for decades and no team is innocent. Hell Thornton had the worst 1 I've probably seen in 15 years against Detroit and you hardly heard a peep about it.
June 10, 2011
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Repent Tokyo said:

repenttokyo
the nhl could easily monitor and make it consistent across the board they could use league employees to count the stats, instead of team / building employees.
June 10, 2011
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Ross The Boss Palmer said:

Ross The Boss Palmer
Just my preference No slight intended on anyone's preferences. I do not mind the variance in stat counting from different arena employees, but that's just me. Some people might. There is no way to monitor it to make it consistent across the board. I simply enjoy watching hits and blocked shots during a game, so I also enjoy those categories in my fantasy leagues.
June 10, 2011
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mick said:

hawkdog
... "From what I see, Vancouver is every bit as dirty as the Bruins, but do a better job of diving."

This is BS. Boston is just as bad and Thomas is the coach and Peverley is the hack coach.


The Chara/burrows should have been coincidental minors - both for retaliations.
June 10, 2011
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Maximus said:

Mr Zizzla
... @Bender
"From what I see, Vancouver is every bit as dirty as the Bruins, but do a better job of diving."

I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. Boston has been called for more penalties because Gillis brought in LaPierre to be the team's diving instructor. Any "dirty" plays that i have seen in replays go both ways but the Bruins don't collapse to the ice as much or throw their head back like a bullet just went through their face (as much).

Burrows hacked Chara, Chara hacked back and Burrows hacked him a 2nd time = coincidental minors.

if anything, the officiating is favouring the Canucks as the Bruins have a continuous parade of players going to the box but Thomas and the Boston PK have shut down the Sedins et al.
June 10, 2011
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Repent Tokyo said:

repenttokyo
why would you want peripheral stats if they weren't influenced by the players, but instead by random arena employees?

i like peripherals like plus/minus, as it's cut and dry who was on the ice and who wasn't, but hits and blocked shots are too ephemeral and i don't want to introduce building variance into my league.
June 10, 2011
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Ross The Boss Palmer said:

Ross The Boss Palmer
Peripheral Stats I enjoy the peripheral stats in my fantasy leagues. I look at it like this, the standard categories are good if you are someone who enjoys gambling and are trying to play the odds or bet on 'sure winners' (goal scorers, etc), and the peripheral categories are great if you want to imagine yourself as a real life GM or coach. It also gives the opportunity to create a more competitive league as they are more categories to spread points throughout the teams in your fantasy league.

Personally I would love to manage or coach an NHL team, so taking into account those additional categories adds more enjoyment to my fantasy hockey league experience. As someone who enjoys playing the sport as well, I enjoy the little battles in every shift. Just my personal preference.
June 10, 2011
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Curtis Curve said:

tcescon
AHL Franchise Musical Chairs So the AHL rubber stamped the Moose moving to St. John's, where they will now be the Peg's affiliate. Does this mean the Thrashers former affiliate, the Chicago Wolves, become the AHL affiliate of the 'Nucks? Given the animosity between the NHL teams from VAN and CHI, I cannot imagine this is a desired outcome for the either of them.
June 10, 2011
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Repent Tokyo said:

repenttokyo
the most important reason that pools should not count hits is because those stats are not gathered by the nhl, they are gathered by arena employees and there are definite biases throughout the league, with some buildings offering a far more liberal interpretation of what a "hit" is. having these stats in your pool is essentially like pushing the "randomize" button.
June 10, 2011
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Pengwin7 said:

Pengwin7
Hits & Blocked Shots Interesting to see a hits & blocked shots top 10. I love lists & rankings.

I actually do not want to see pools start incorporating hits & blocked shots. These categories would water down the more important statistics. (Though this could be countered by making G & A worth a DOUBLE category)

In a standard 6-cat league, Milan Lucic was more valuable this year than Henrik Sedin. Personally, I'd like my fantasy hockey pools to be set up so that a player's value in the pool is close to a player's value in real life. Hits, Blocked Shots, Takeaways, Giveaways all factor into one category already: +/-. If a player is "effectively" doing those four things correctly, they will create a few O-scoring opportunities & dispossess their opponents. This all leads to a better +/-. Many big hitters around the league (Clutterbuck, Brown, B.Boyle, Ruutu) all have reasonable +/- statistics because of their checking skills.

I'd give you my top 10 list based on compiled statistics, except that I don't want to ruin your efforts. I will say that Ryan Kesler is the only star player to crack the list, finishing the 2010-2011 season at #7 with a score of 7.1/10.
June 10, 2011
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Bender said:

baconnol
Dirty Pool From what I see, Vancouver is every bit as dirty as the Bruins, but do a better job of diving.
June 10, 2011
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Dean Youngblood said:

Dean Youngblood
Mock Draft Thanks Angus for the shout out and kind words. The mock draft (1st round) is complete and posted on the boards or you can view it in it's entirety on the website www.thescoutingbureau.wordpress.com where I post the more important stuff to keep my thoughts organized.

Round Two Mock is currently underway (posted 31st-40 on the boards).

Thanks again to the followers!
June 10, 2011
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Sacco said:

fado
... fzusher, playoff hockey has always been called and played differently than regular season hockey. Most hockey fans will tell you that this is the best hockey we get to see all year and I agree. This is evident to me from the number of people who year in and year out tell me they only care to watch hockey in the playoffs. I'm neither a Bruins or Canucks fan. What I see is not bad officiating but instead questionable goaltending from what is supposed to be a superstar goalie and a lack of desire, determination and grit from a team that was the best all year long. You see bad officiating, I see bad play from Vancouver.
Boston will win: if Thomas continues to play outstanding and the team continues to suffocate the Canucks.
Vancouver will win: if Luongo shows up and the rest of the team realize that this is the Stanley Cup finals and they'd better show more hunger if they want to be called the Stanley Cup Champs.
I'm no "purist" like Cherry, but this ain't bowling buddy!!!
June 10, 2011
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mick said:

hawkdog
todays game outcome. I agree full heartedly Fzusher, you can't push something all season then change for the finals, if they played this style of hockey all season the canucks would employ an enforcer.

WELL SAID.
June 10, 2011
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fzusher said:

fzusher
today's game outcome Bruins win if: Officials continue to turn a blind eye to dirty play (hacks at players' feet etc.) and all the (non-dirty) penalties they have been letting slide so far (both also known as 'Bruins hockey', celebrated by self appointed game purists who really are all about playing the only kind of hockey they have the talent for, like Don Cherry).

Canucks win if: Officials go back to protecting skilled players and allowing them room to play hockey (also known as regular season officiating in the post-lockout era).

It's notable how the NHL can try to celebrate (and sell) the skill & scoring element of the game for the 7 months of the regular season, but then lets the goonery take over more and more with every round of its showcase, culminating in the finals. The notion of post-season hockey being a different brand of hockey is great and true insofar as it refers to grit, heart, overcoming injuries, desire to win, giving it 110% etc., but it is absolute bullocks if it becomes a euphemism for an anything goes royal rumble.

And before someone points out that it's the Bruins who had a star taken out of the series after a late hit to the head, that's just a result of the Bruins being more skilled at skill-erasing dirty play than the Canucks.

So here, given y'all something intentionally controversial to talk over on a slow Friday morning smilies/grin.gif
June 10, 2011
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bondon said:

Bondon
Top 10 Keeper Peripheral Players List Awesome, I'm looking forward to that keeper list. I'm joining my first league that includes hits and PIM with the inaugural draft in September so it couldn't come at a better time for me!
June 10, 2011
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