Fantasy Prospects Report - buy it here.

 

I'll have more in the ramblings late tonight/tomorrow morning, but the Flyers have acquired the rights to Ilya Bryzgalov from the Coyotes for a third round pick. Also, the Winnipeg franchise will hire Kevin Cheveldayoff to be their new GM. My thoughts forthcoming.

 

Update II - Aaron Rome was suspended four games this morning for the hit on Horton. If the series does not go seven games, he will miss time next season.

 

To be clear - content and fantasy advice will never appear on Facebook. Only here, in the forum, or on Twitter. The Facebook page is strictly a means of interacting with the sites that are on (or will be on) the network. Get your voice heard, get things that you would like to see out there. Announcements may go more in-depth over there, i.e. the upcoming Toronto event. Pictures will go over there (again, the Toronto event and other events). Being in its infancy, I don't fully know exactly what all can be done with it. But you do help the site grow - in traffic and prestige - by liking the page. Added traffic and prestige means better prizes for our contests. If you have any questions you can always ask me here, or on the Facebook page, and I will be happy to answer them.

 

Wonder if anyone out there can put me in touch with somebody who is developing an online fantasy hockey game such as Small World...

 

Update - Horton has a 'severe concussion' and will not return for the Final.

 

Regarding the Dobber Sports Facebook page - I understand many of you are leery about announcing to all of your Facebook friends that you like Dobber Sports, because it may give away what you believe is a great secret and an edge to winning your league. I have three points that I like to make on that. One - I wholeheartedly agree, if that were the case. It's all about the win. BUT:

Two - If they don't know about it by now, then they'll never know about it. I'm advertised this year in McKeen's and The Hockey News pool guides, I write for THN, Puck Daddy, the Score Forecaster...this stuff is all over the place now, there's no hiding it. Besides, how many times do you ignore your newsfeed when a friend "like's" a company? How about "always".

Three - Even if you tell some competitors about it, they are still too lazy to put forth the effort. In my 22-year keeper league, I am certain that seven of the 14 guys do not go to my site...ever. And another one or two only visit monthly. And I only notice maybe five of them buying my guides. This is my own league - they know all about the site, they just don't care. You can generally find them in the middle of the standings every year, as they are not good enough to win and not smart enough to jockey for a better draft pick.

 

Nathan Horton was carried off the ice on a stretcher after a (late?) hit by Aaron Rome, who was kicked out of the game. Horton was taken off the ice on a stretcher, but was clearly trying to get the trainers and staff to let him off and let him skate on his own so hopefully he is okay. He was taken to hospital where his exremities were all moving. Probably a concussion, but the severity is unknown. I’m guessing some of that playoff magic spray will do the trick and have him up and ready to go by Game 6. You know the spray that I mean – the one that you squirt on yourself in the playoffs and you’re magically healed when normally the injury will keep you sidelined for three months. (UPDATE: I said the above with tongue-in-cheek late Monday night, but as I updated at the top on Tuesday morning - Horton is done for the series, which is certainly a result that I neither expected or desired).

 

The Blues have signed TJ Hensick for two more seasons. I would imagine that it is a two-way deal, I would be surprised if he had any leverage to get a one-way deal. Hensick is a former Top 10 prospect on my Fantasy Prospects List, but one of the ones who just never got it rolling at the NHL level.

 

This guy thinks that Evgeni Grachev will have a big season. I agree, but in the AHL. Let him dominate there before dominating in the NHL. But I agree that his defensive game, as well as his strength, have improved.

 

Jason LaBarbera signed back on with the ‘Yotes for two more seasons. Although he has been a starter before, I don’t think he will be one again so expect the team to sign Vokoun another starter.

 

Allowing seven eight (sorry, I shut off the game and didn’t know until later that they scored an eighth!) goals last night has robbed Luongo of his shot at a Conn Smythe if Vancouver wins the Cup.

 

Mike Heika reports that Brad Richards has received three- and/or four-year offers from the Stars to remain. Nope. He’ll shoot for eight years and get at least seven this contract – mark it!

 

Michael Ryder was the only player to get more than two points, despite the team scoring eight goals. Ryder was moved up to replace Horton when the latter was carried off the ice. The points give him 14 and set a career playoff high for him. As an unrestricted free agent next month, this couldn’t have come at a better time.

 

Fun fact: Vancouver outshot the Bruins 41-38, lost the game 8-1.

 

Fun fact: anyone who says or writes the words “fun fact” before giving you a fun fact, deserves a punch in the face. Starting now.

 

Hey, with 3000+ Twitter followers and thousands reading this site daily, I can’t believe I don’t even have 100 likes on the new Dobber Sports Facebook page. You’ll have questions for the people behind Frozen Pool, Hockey Pool Geek and Goalie Post (plus myself) – this is where you can do that!  I invite/ask/beg/threaten you to "like" the group.

 

The hit on Horton, two quick strides after getting rid of the puck – then he was hit:

 

Tim Thomas with the nice check!

 

 

Milan Lucic with another awesome bite-my-finger joke. Now they’ve each done the joke, it won’t be funny if they do it a third time.

 

 


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PD said:

ZamboniNation
FB image badges... To get the FB images to display like that I think the trick is to size the images properly so they aren't cropped.. 68 height by 97 wide looks to be the sweet spot.. Upload them newly sized images & you can then select which you want to show in the designated profile boxes. Feel free to reach out via email
June 08, 2011
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hockey said:

hockey
Hit All blame aside, horton is harder for the bruins to lose than rome is for the nucks (i'll support this claim if need be but I think its pretty clear that horton is better and more important to his team than rome is). 4 games seems steep to me but the hit was illegal and the end result still favors vancouver. Series integrity is intact. hope horty has a swift recovery.
June 08, 2011
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Draft Dodger said:

steve_oshp
my take I think if a) the hitter was one of the nucks top D men and 2) they had nobody but green ahl D men to replace Rome with, then he would have gotten at most 1 game, if anything. The league seems to dole out harsh punishment to show they are cracking down when it doesn't hurt the team too much - star players get 1 or no games, tough guys and agitators get more. Rome is not one of their top D men and they have what I think would be a top 4 D man on a lot of teams in Ballard they can plug right in to the lineup.
My take anyway
June 07, 2011
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Repent Tokyo said:

repenttokyo
does anyone else find it amusing that a guy named "CH" is being blasted by canadiens fans?
June 07, 2011
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Jack Johnson said:

solo223
2 rules for different players/teams.... CH

Isn't it funny though that when Chara hit Pacioretty, all Julien said was that it was a late hit and only warranted a 2 minute obstruction penalty and back then it was obvious to everyone Chara was gunning for Pac.....now when the same thing happens to one of his players, he says it was cheap and that a suspension is warranted...All you Bruins fan cheered Chara for breaking the guy's neck(and his check was worse since Pacioretty never even had puck possession while Rome had exactly .04 seconds to back off the hit under the stupid NHL rule of .05 second, Horton got hit exactly .09 second after the pass) but you get all woozy doozy emotional because it's one of your players...i'm not happy for Horton, i hate the culture of hitting guys near the head and using the stick to slash guys in the legs, body or face, but you know what they say, you spit in the air and it eventually ends up in your face...maybe now some of you Boston pea soup brains will start to consider that ALL hits to the head should be banned regardless of angle...if any team should lead the charge to change the way Campbell(sold out to Bruins), Murphy and now Shanahan deal with it, it should be you given you now have Savard(who's practically finished), Bergie who's just an accident waiting to happen and now Horton...Buttman and his gang of apes should clear the way for some people who will make clear substantial changes to make the game safer for players. the NFL is doing it and the game has never been more popular, so why couldn't hockey do it?. You hit the head, 20 game suspension minimum without pay for 1st offense, 2nd one is 50 games, no pay, 3rd offense a complete season, no pay. Anything after that is a total ban from pro hockey...I'd do it with the 3rd offense but some might think it's too harsh for making jello out of a guy's brain...When penalties start hitting the players pocket book seriously, they will change.

PS..i didn't call the cops on Chara...i just think he should have been suspended for 5 games
June 07, 2011 | url
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Derrek said:

TangerineDreamTeam
@ch You're acting worse than any habs fan i personally know in Montreal,(anyone who called the police is an idiot yes, just like anyone who thinks Rome deserves 4 games for that hit based on the rules) and I'm a die hard CH FAN who worked at the Bell Center... but your comments were 10x more disrespectful than anyone elses here. You decide to throw Habs fans under the bus because Horton got injured and people cheering for Vancouver don't have as much sympathy as you do? Or because a professional sports writer states some facts and his own opinion on HIS WEBSITE that you disagree with? Chara got 0 games, his hit was much worse, during the regular season, at the peak of headshots, the disciplinary comity is related to your team, the list of BS goes on for Chara not getting suspended which was why the city of Montreal reacted so strongly. You got a 4 game suspension from your buddy Murphy, and you got Dobber to pretty much submit a retraction...

Sounds like you don't play contact hockey while throwing a temper tantrum in your posts because you didn't like Dobber's reaction to the hit.

Lastly, I think it's a suspend-able hit, 4 games in the SCF is too much and Chara's hit on Max was later than .93 seconds. So just realize all fans get too worked up, so when you come on someone else's website to post your opinion take a step back and see the full story first.
June 07, 2011
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Larry said:

Rollie1967
Murphy should be fired Mike Murphy (who made the call) has admitted that he called Brian Burke for his input... the same Burke who was fired by the Canucks and detests the Aquilini's (canuck owners),not to mention he is an employee of a rival franchise! Just when they eliminate 1 conflict-they find a bigger one.

Any supplemental discipline should not be based on injury (unless its a non-hockey play-ie suckerpunch). The ONLY thing Murphy shouldve referenced was the video to determine the lateness of the hit.Murphy admitted that it was less than a second late, yet he decided to up the ante during the finals! and give Rome 4 games. pathetic.
June 07, 2011
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Repent Tokyo said:

repenttokyo
i know murphy is "technically" the man right now but Shanny was right there in the booth all night.

i also agree with you that it's definitely the wrong move to change course midstream like this, but it's also totally consistent with the NHL's policy of inconsistency.
June 07, 2011
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Sanstanya said:

sanstanya
@Repent Tokyo "why is anyone here surprised that shanahan used the hit as a way of making a statement about how he intends to run supplementary discipline in the NHL from here on out?"

Honestly, if that were the case it might make a bit more sense, though I still think a complete change of protocol during the SC final is a bit mickey mouse. But Shanny doesn't take over until next year so he (theoretically) had nothing to do with this decision. It was Colie Campbell's right-hand-man Mike Murphy who took over for this series.
June 07, 2011
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Repent Tokyo said:

repenttokyo
facebook and the suspension re: facebook - i don't use it, so I could care less. But I do wish Dobber good luck with using it as a promotional tool for his brand.

re: the suspension - why is anyone here surprised that shanahan used the hit as a way of making a statement about how he intends to run supplementary discipline in the NHL from here on out?
June 07, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
PD Hey, thanks for the link. How can I meld my images like that? I looked all over mashable and couldn't find it.
June 07, 2011
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PD said:

ZamboniNation
like #132 Once you get over a certain threshold of likes you're entitled to a top level address ie. facebook.com/dobbersports which will look much better for your branding efforts..

Also - may I suggest some creative use of facebook images - for the DobberSports it's a natural.. See http://mashable.com/2010/12/14...ery_box497 for an example.
June 07, 2011
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Larry said:

Rollie1967
WTF is the NHL thinking?? The hit by Rome was just less than 1 second late (tsn did a digital frame by frame breakdown) and now in the finals they change the criteria for what is suspendable? Its not a hit from behind/into the boards- its just a second late, and its worth 4games. How is this even close to what Chara did to Paciorety? How many regular season games did he get? It wasnt even the dirtiest play in the game.(albeit the worst outcome)but the NHL doesnt usually suspend based on the injury-nor should they.

the finger waving was funny the 1st time Recchi did it, not the 2nd time, nor when Lucic did it-funny how Julien waited till after the game to admonish the act infront of the media.
June 07, 2011
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Sanstanya said:

sanstanya
lateness and such @ch and anyone else

Don't want you to confuse this with justifying the hit because I don't have any interest in doing that, but it wasn't as late as people are saying, and it wasn't as late as many other injury-free hits in the game (as others have pointed out). I think it is very much an outcome-based topic (and suspension) at this point.

The NHL rule on late hits is anything over 0.5 seconds. Rome makes contact 28 frames after the puck is released. 30 frames = 1 second. So the hit comes at 0.93 seconds after the pouck is gone. Almost double but far from 2 or 3 seconds (as many fans and Glen healey have claimed) which is a lifetime during play.

Poor judgement, poor hit but I don't like the penchant people have for inflating the circumstances for any reason, no matter how emotional and unfortunate it was. A 3 second late thunderous hit is almost undoubtably a brutal intent to injure. As much as I wish it hadn't happened, I'm not as outraged by 0.93.
June 07, 2011
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Jeff Angus said:

June 07, 2011
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david lynch said:

david_lynch74
Horton Hit It's too bad another guy admiring his pass gets knocked out. The hit was practically straight on. Rome had time to let up and Horton had time to turn his head back to the direction he's skating...unfortunately for him he got the worse of it. The hit was a bit late but not far off from finishing your check. It's the playoffs...players play with a bit more intensity.

Guys need to protect themselves more. This isn't much different than guys who like to stand along the boards and face the glass when there's someone about to check them...guess what happens next.

Hopefully the Bruins can adjust and win game 4.
June 07, 2011
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ch said:

christopher929
All Good
No worries Dobber. I'm a Bruin fan that gets worked up when I see a star player go down. I love your site and don't mean to nit pick just being sensitive under these circumstances. Thanks.
June 07, 2011
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Thieving Giraffe said:

Thieving Giraffe
Rome suspended for the series Dan Murphy (Sportsnet) broke "NHL suspends Canucks Aaron Rome 4 games for hit on Nathan Horton in game 3 of Stanley Cup Final." Mike Murphy will release a statement at 1:15 p.m. EST. Scoop to Bond0n in the forums.
June 07, 2011
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Rob said:

rob2kx
Ingrates. Love all the negative commentary and anger flying around here. Nice to see the gigantic sense of entitlement we all enjoy in North America is going strong. There's a lot of people here consuming and not doing. It's easy to criticize when you're not creating.
June 07, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... Guys - it's just an additional way to interact with all of the sites on the network. If you're anti-Facebook, that's cool. I'm anti-Apple, so I understand being opposed to something that everyone else loves. Just don't hate me for it. And the DobberHockey forum will still maintain its current interactivity - which, I might add, is pretty excellent, no?


ch - You forget that I'm just a regular Joe. I'm not TSN, I don't have a team of editors. I do have an opinion, just like you, just like your neighbor. I enjoy beer, I have two young kids (my three-week old is starting to fuss again, so this comment will take two sittings). You say "don't backtrack now" and I take offense to that. I just want to enjoy my fantasy hockey. I don't want to come on here and argue. I'm sorry if you misread me, or if your opinion differs from mine. Please tell me what to write and I will copy and paste your message for the world to see and use them as my own words. LOL it's like arguing with my wife - tell me what to say and I'll say it! Whatever can make this right. I own Horton in my league. I'm from near Oshawa, where Horton played junior hockey. I love Horton and I'm a big fan. I hope he's okay, the hit has no place in hockey, the hit was late, and it was two quick strides after he got rid of the puck. That's my stance, it has always been my stance, I just tried to neutralize it for the sake of discussion. If this offends you, please email me with your phone number so I can phone you and personally and sincerely apologize.

Doubting Thomas - You got it! Let me know if I'm not allowed to have an EGO. If not, then I'll seek help in getting rid of it. I thought, for some reason, we were all allowed EGOs. Anyway, don't hate me for it. Just trying to grow my business.



June 07, 2011
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shaun b said:

shingy
I Agree with Youngblood Facebook is inevitable but not where you're average Joe hockey fan wants to catch up on fantasy hockey. Honestly, out of all the die hard fantasy hockey fans I know, none of them are high on facebook, including myself. I love this site and others like it. I'd hate to see content start showing up there and not here. Keep up the good work.
June 07, 2011
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Dean Youngblood said:

Dean Youngblood
Facebook...How about the Forums? I gave you a like on Facebook. It's clear that you see Facebook as a another medium to get your product out there and promote the website. If people visit the facebook page then it leads to more website views and consequently more money. It's alright to admit too smilies/wink.gif smilies/tongue.gif It's smart marketing and probably overdue for DH anyways.

In saying that, I really wish that the interactive portion with yourself, Angus, Frozen Pools and GG came via the Forums. I remember when I first start visiting DH you were extremely visible on the boards. It's clear that you've become busier lately with the newborn and DH name expanding but if your main goal is to use Facebook as a means of
"interaction" then I am a bit disappointed. The forums seem to be a great spot to accomplish this goal and improve the DH representation that has been lacking a bit lately.

Please consider this constructive criticism and nothing else. Facebook is an inevitable step just don't let it become the MAIN spot for interaction. The Forum and its members deserve better.
June 07, 2011
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ch said:

christopher929
... Don't back track now ... these are your words. You put the question mark in there and you also described the hit above the video clip as "two quick strides after getting rid of the puck." Really? Quick strides? As if Rome didn't have a couple of seconds to decide what he wanted to do. I'm glad you updated your earlier comment but I don't see condemnation of the play, you are in effect saying "that's hockey" and if cheap late blind shots is your view of hockey then that's sad.
June 07, 2011
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Doubting Thomas said:

Pengwin7
Bah "But I'm a competitive guy. So if I see a hockey blog with 1000 'likes' on Facebook, but I only have 100 'likes' despite having 10x the traffic, I want to win! What do I get from that?"

Answer: You get an EGO boost.

Hockey is a sport filled with modest, hard-working men.
Doubting Thomas wishes Dobber could be a little more modest.
June 07, 2011
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UKflames said:

UKflames
No FaceBook, don't want faceBook Hey Dobber if your Facebook page is going to become "the hub" for contacting Goalie post and HPG what about those that don't feel the need to live their lives through sad book??

I guess your going to say continue to use the forums but you make it sound like your facebook page is going to be the place that either site will be using for questions, leaving the forum short on attention. I maybe wrong but that's the way it comes across.
June 07, 2011
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Ross The Boss Palmer said:

Ross The Boss Palmer
No Facebook I do not have facebook, however, this year I made it known in all my fantasy leagues that I used this site for news, reference, reports, etc.

I had a couple trades vetoed by guys who A) never played the game or their hockey knowledge was minimal, B) guys who had minimal experience with fantasy hockey.

The hope was too up the competition, not lose an edge. I enjoy a very tight race for the championship and always hope that half the league has a chance. Of course, these were not money leagues. If they were and the competition didn't know about DobberHockey, then well, screw 'em!
June 07, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
Doubting Thomas Hey DT - this is just marketing 101. I don't see how Facebook would pay me anything for that, so I get zero dollars. But I'm a competitive guy. So if I see a hockey blog with 1000 'likes' on Facebook, but I only have 100 'likes' despite having 10x the traffic, I want to win! What do I get from that? I guess I reinforce brand loyalty and get some word-of-mouth out there to your friends. That's it.
The primary gain here is for you. Not today, but in say December. How can you get in touch with Goalie Post? Hockey Pool Geek? Do you have a question? Feedback? This page will be the hub for that.
I have a DobberHockey event in Toronto on June 17 and the details will be on this page. It's an informal, friendly way to interact with the reader.

To summarize:
My gains are minimal:
- personal competition
- minor marketing
- I get to know my readers/get feedback I can react to

Your gains are minimal:
- a way to be heard. What do you want to see/what do you want changed?
- a way to find out about upcoming products/events/features

Your losses are also minimal:
- a friend or two who you don't want to find out about the site - 'may' - find out about it.

Not a whole lot to ask in exchange for 1800 straight days of ramblings, 2000 free advice columns, 200+ player ranking updates

In the broad scope of life on this planet, this is not a big deal. A used car salesman has more to gain (lots of commission selling a car). I'm pretty up front with you if I profit from anything on this free site.
June 07, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
ch relax, no disrespect intended. Wow. The question mark was put there to promote discussion. My personal opinion is that it was late. Question for you - how were you insulted by my comment? I need to know, so that it doesn't happen again. Hopefully, my add-on edit makes it easier to digest.
June 07, 2011
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Doubting Thomas said:

Pengwin7
Fun Fact Dobber - I'm not on Facebook... but... what is the benefit of having a bunch of people "like" the Facebook page? Seriously - I'm lost. If it gets you paid more money through web hits & advertising, can't you just say so?

I'm all for investing in somebody who has created a great product (such as DobberHockey). But... you are listing three points on why people should "like" the page even though you don't expect any more traffic from these "likes". It is very confusing.

The vibe I get is this: "My page needs to be liked - but don't worry about the potential negative effect on your use of the product."

You sound like a car salesman... or a fish salesman.
Something stinks here.
June 07, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... Hahaha - there should be a "like the hell out of" button
June 07, 2011
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gfhyde said:

gfhyde
Hell yes I like the HELL out of that Facebook page. smilies/grin.gif
June 07, 2011
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fzusher said:

fzusher
Hensick - link Here's the link on Hensick I drew on, from the Peoria Journal Star.
June 07, 2011
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fzusher said:

fzusher
Hensick's leverage In continuation to Brayden's post,

Hensick had a competing offer from Sweden which he leveraged into that 300k AHL salary in the second year.

While it's still a two-way, the money difference in that second year is negligible, so that's not what'll keep him down. But this signing was first announced by Peoria, and while Hensick says he hasn't given up on the NHL yet, he talks mostly about leading Peoria.
June 07, 2011
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Mabus said:

mabus
... Sausage - Watch that game again and you can easily find ten hits that were later than that one. The only reason anyone is discussing the hit is because Horton stayed on the ice. The only reason he stayed on the ice is because he hit his head on it. If that doesn't happen, he hops back up, and there isn't even a penalty on the play. The NHL is now in the habit of penalizing for the result, not for the action, and that is something everyone just needs to get used to.
June 07, 2011
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Alex Currie said:

EliasFan
... Dobber, if I hit like on your Facebook page, all my friends I play fantasy sports with will instantly know about your site! I'll lose my edge! smilies/grin.gif
June 07, 2011
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Mr Sausage said:

Mr_Sausage
Horton You don't need that (late?) beside the ramblings. It was unquestionably late. This is where players have to respect each other. Rome knew Horton wasn't even looking at him and wasn't prepared for the hit. Yet he decided to leave his feet and hit him high. This is the very thing the NHL is trying to get rid of and the players know it but they still do these dumb things.
June 07, 2011
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Brayden said:

ether
TJ Hensick It is a two-way deal although he is compensated quite handsomely even in the AHL. $600k per year if he's in the NHL, $105k this year then $300k next year as an AHL salary.
June 06, 2011
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