Curious if the same group of dissenters here on DobberHockey and on Twitter are laughing at me quite as much when I say this again: "I would rather own Malkin over Stamkos in a keeper league - it's not even close".

 

The rest did Geno a world of good - eight points in three games since his return to the lineup. When healthy and in the mood - nobody is better. Nobody.

 

After one point in eight games, Tobias Enstrom has five in his last two. He's a streaky player, so look for big numbers for another week or two.

 

Anthony Stewart. Does anyone confuse me more? When is he going to get hurt and/or start sucking?

 

He's played six games this season and he has six points - yeah, Evgeny Dadonov of the Florida Panthers has caught our attention. The 21-year-old has second-line upside and is giving us a preview of why. His ice time still hovers around 12 minutes, so I don't expect it to last, but if he can stick around all season he is one to watch for next  year. As for the short term - why not? Grab him and see what he does over the next week.

 

Justin Peters - oops. He'd like to take a Mulligan.

 

Mike Smith is sidelined for the next two weeks with an LBI. Injuries again. He isn't the same goalie that he was when Dallas had him and early on in his TB tenure. And injuries are the main reason - as well as the psychological impact of subconsciously favoring the body parts that have been injured recently. All that plays a role in his suckiness.

 

Tim Thomas - awesome goalie, but he is coming down to Earth. Finally. Two wins in his last six starts. If Rask can win the next one, there is hope for his owners (for this year) yet...

 

Sergei Bobrovsky got the hook last night after giving up four goals on 22 shots. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if he can still be sent to the AHL without clearing waivers than why not do that for a couple of weeks and see how Leighton and Boucher do? Not that Bob deserves it after one bad game, but it would probably help this three-goalie situation.

 

Ryan Malone did not play in the third period because of a UBI. "Precautionary" they say, according to Erik Erlendsson.

 

Mike Comrie has been held out with a hip injury, according to the Post-Gazette, and it is possible that he will undergo surgery. He has missed 11 games so far.

 

Oscar Moller has been sent back down to the AHL. This past stint was an impressive one, but with Marco Sturm coming back the team had to make a move.

 

Interesting new lines for the Devils, according to nj.com: Tim Sestito will center Kovalchuk and Tedenby. Don't pick him up, of course, until you see how he does for a game. By "him" I mean Sestito...

 

The Devils have recalled Matthew Corrente.

 

Cam Barker, big disappointment in Minny, was a healthy scratch in favor of rookie Marco Scandella. Scanny (I'm on a nickname basis with all these guys) notched an assist in the game, and probably earned an extended look. If they don't send him back down he may be worth a pickup for next week if you need an offensive d-man - and we all do.

 

Eric Fehr will miss the next contest according to the Post, because of a death in the family. Alex Semin is doubtful.

 

Mathieu Perreault will remain with the club until the roster freeze lifts on December 27.

 

Brad Richardson or Marco Sturm will probably play on the wing with Kopitar and Brown next game.

 

Patric Hornqvist should return to the lineup tomorrow. Pekka Rinne is also a possible start. Whereas David Legwand is "questionable" according to the Tennessean.

 

A 45 save shutout for Jonas Hiller - another solid one earned. These alst nine games he has been awesome - pushing his GAA from 2.88 to 2.57, and his SP from 0.914 to 0.923. I'd be kicking myself if I traded him at the start of December (just a little shot at a GM in my league - haha)

 

Ott vs. Abdelkader:

 

 

Leaf fans taking the new waffle fad to stupid heights - in mid-play. Via Puck Daddy:

 

 


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Dave said:

ddp
Krisco I'm keeping this PG...but dude...cmon....how old is stamkos? before his big run last year??no one was considering stammer for debate????????????? my god...can't believe you wrote that.
December 22, 2010
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krisco said:

sasquatch
Stamkos v Malkin...... again Interesting how no one has mentioned the massive skill of a certain Martin St Louis, yet every one is punching Crosby's number and sying this is why Malkin is better.... The downside of Malkin for me is lack of FW for a center nothing else. Before Stammers big run last year he wasnt even considered in any debate of top 3/4. Backstrom and Kopitar have been spoken of as top 4 before too. People seem to forget too easily.
December 22, 2010
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Steffen said:

Steffen
Stamkos vs Malkin I know I teased with my previous post about waffles leading the Leafs. Seriously, Kessel and Kulemin? Those are your best hopes? I'm betting on the waffle.

In My Humble Opinion, Malkin will outpoint Stamkos over their careers. He's just that much better a player.

Yes, Crosby's presence will obscure what he does. And help. Stamkos may score more goals, but he won't help the Lightning win more games than Evgeni does for the Penguins. Just my 2 cents, worth less.
December 21, 2010
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JF Bessette said:

gfunkb7
DP I can't believe DP is 6%-owned in yahoo. What a bunch of Staten Island losers. He aint no band-aid boy - guy needs an effin hospital for himself.
December 21, 2010
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Anze said:

Anze
Big 3 Dobber has often mentionned Malkin's Art Ross and Conn Smythe, which are great achievements but there is one thing that is rarely said about Malkin's playoff performance that year : Detroit were playing Datsyuk, the best defensive forward in the league, and Lidstrom, the best defenseman of the last 15 years, against Crosby in the final. Crosby was outproducing Malkin in the first 2 rounds, but ran into the best defense there is in the NHL.

So yes Malkin is a great player, and there is a big 3. But Crosby remains top in my opinion ( otherwise Detroit would have played their best players against Malkin ), he is a consistent, proven winner.

I agree with a previous comment that last year there was talk of a big 4 with Kopitar, but it didn't last. You can tell from my name that I like Kopitar but he is not in the big 3 class. And I'm very impressed by Stamkos but would like to see him take the next step, at 110 points, and performing without much help, before agreeing with him being a big 4.
December 21, 2010
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derek said:

buck0198
Stewart I picked up Stewart early in the season and have kept him in two deeper leagues. I am glad that he is panning out...good story.
December 21, 2010
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MT319 said:

MT319
... Absolutely still prefer Stamkos over Malkin...you misinterpret however as the only reason you get an aggressive response of projecting one over the other is when you mock your readers in response...I can careless if you disagree or someone else disagree that Stamkos isn't equal or better option to Malkin in a keeper as that's merely just a difference in opinion which will eventually speak for itself, not some quarrel over objective fact...what pissed me off is the fact that you mocked everyone who disagreed with Stamkos rank relative to Malkin "with give me better comments than this" nonsense....that's what I didn't like and responded to with my "more elbaorate comment" on why I personally believe Stamkos to be the superior option to Malkin...one 5 point game is irrelevant to me and is heavily influenced by the line he's playing on (ie; being slotted with Crosby) more so than the player himself...I do not expect them to play together the majority of the remaining season, nor for the vast majority of future seasons...so yes as a so called "dissenter" I stick by what I said a month ago as I legitimately believe that to be true..no different than you believe Malkin to be the better option of the two...again what warranted the response was you mocking the readers with "give me better comments than this" since I thought that was a weak move by an individual who should be a little more appreciative that people use his site and were passionate about the subject to even take the initiative to respond in the first place...makes the site better all-around and definitely not something that should be mocked
December 21, 2010
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derek said:

buck0198
Bob As a Pens fan, I hope the Flyers drop Leighton and ride Bobrovsky...he will be burnt out come playoffs...book it.
December 21, 2010
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Curtis Curve said:

tcescon
... Guess Thomas needs to work on his goal scoring. Three of his 4 losses in regulation have come in games that Boston has been shut out. Few goalies can win in this league when their team does not score a goal.
December 21, 2010 | url
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BDog said:

BDog
Enstrom I wouldn't label Enstrom a "streaky player" but rather a great young talented defensemen
coming into his own. I believe with Atlanta on the rise you will start to see more consistency from him and then maybe this underrated player will get the props he deserves.
December 21, 2010
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Steffen said:

Steffen
Stamkos vs Malkin Personally, I think the Leafs' best player is probably a waffle. That doesn't mean you should throw him out there every shift...
December 21, 2010
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TOCanadafan said:

TOCanadafan
Malkin v Stamkos A comparison is difficult at this point, as we don't really have enough data on Stamkos, but...
Remember, Malkin would have made his NHL debut a year earlier was it not for the lockout, so in comparing strictly points to the only similar complete season:
Malkin 85 to Stamkos 95.
And this year so far... Malkin 30 to Stamkos 47.
That's all we have.

Personally, I prefer the guy who doesn't take a shift off, is working as hard as anyone after each season to get better, over a guy with a slightly better skill set. Poolies tend to focus more often on "upside" or "ceiling" and don't give equal weight to "downside" or "floor". It seems that the instances of Malkin laying low for stretches seems to be increasing. This does not bode well for the future.

With all that said, Malkin should get the nod at this point because of his consistency, managing to score over a point per game in each of his 5 seasons. But since the fantasy game involves so many projections, I certainly like the probability that comes with Stamkos matching and even surpassing Malkin's #'s.
December 21, 2010
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Mabus said:

mabus
... Agreed Lloyd. Stamkos over Crosby seems crazy to me. Stamkos over Ovechkin also seems crazy. That says to me Big 2.

Now for Stamkos vs. Malkin. Adjusting for league scoring, Stamkos' season as an 18 year old was the 5th best over the last 20 years (behind Crosby, Kovalchuk, Jagr and Linden). As a 19 year old, he was second best (behind only Croby). Malkin's first season was as a 20 year old, and it was the 4th best season for a 20 year old (behind Ovechkin, Kovalchuk and Turgeon). Where Stamkos finishes this season will depend on how he finishes the season and on what happens with overall league scoring, but right now he's on pace to finish higher than Malkin. As a 21 year old, Malkin's season was second to only Lindros. As a 22 year old, he was third (behind Ovechkin and Jagr).

In short, Malkin is an undeniable stud. The sample size for Stamkos has been much smaller, but he's outperformed Malkin so far. The potential is there for him to exceed Malkin into the future. In short, I think you are justified taking either of them - it is close.

Mabus
December 21, 2010
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Dave said:

ddp
opinions Everyone has their own opinion...including Dobber. In my opinion he couldn't be more wrong about In the mood Malkin vs Stamkos...he could think the leafs are going to win the cup and I'd once again disagree...no problem. Here's me tooting Stamkos horn...he's ahead of Malkin in a keeper league. why? cause pts. bottom line.
December 21, 2010
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TOCanadafan said:

TOCanadafan
Malkin There are many things you have to love about Malkin from a fantasy perspective...
His shifts are way too long (and this includes PP) so this bumps up his ice-time. He also chooses to change as the puck is going into his team's defensive zone so this usually translates into minuses to his teammates who have just jumped over the boards (who belong to other poolies in your league).
He'll always shoot (be it an off-balanced wrist shot) even when the pass is a better option.
Instead of playing tight in his defensive zone he floats waiting for a linemate to do the work and turnover the puck for a fast breakout.
Most importantly, he plays when he's in the mood, so when the Pens are up 3 or more goals he's bound to pot a couple.
When you've got the sublime skills that Malkin has, all of these things become positives from a fantasy perspective.
December 21, 2010
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Lloyd said:

vandalay
Malkin-Stamkos The whole "it's not even close" part is what I take issue with. I can see why someone would prefer Malkin over Stamkos or vice versa but to say "it's not even close" is either total hyperbole aimed at getting a reaction or you are really out to lunch.
December 21, 2010
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... Dale - thing is, I spoke of Malkin's greatness during his slump. Every day for five years I've spoke of his greatness. Nothing changes over a five-point game. Nothing changes over a five-game slump. That's my point. So it shouldn't amuse you that I "suddenly" tooted his horn after one game. Because the horn hasn't stopped tooting.

As for "in the mood" - of course that means Sid is a better own.

Guys - if you want to stubbornly refuse to prefer Malkin over Stamkos, go ahead. But my advice hasn't wavered one iota. Malkin, on a 70-point pace and then sidelined with a knee injury, while Stamkos gets 40 points in 23 games - and I NEVER WAVERED. Last night was one example of why. There will be hundreds more examples to come. Big 3, not Big 4. Never a Big 4 unless some phenom comes up from bantam in a few years.
December 21, 2010
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David said:

OceanMon
Bobrovsky Bobrovsky is best. Leighton is a bum. Philly is smart not to bring Leighton back. He'll destroy any confidence the team has in the goaltender.
December 21, 2010
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Mabus said:

mabus
... I think the temporary window to buy low on Malkin was slammed shut last night. Last year at about this time we were hearing talk about a big 4, but everyone was talking about Kopitar, not Stamkos. About 3 months earlier, people were asking why we weren't including Backstrom in the big 3 talk. My opinion is that there is actually a big 2 with Crosby and Ovechkin a head above the rest, but the message boards will always be littered with fans extrapolating the current hot or cold streaks.

Mabus
December 21, 2010
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Jon Dey said:

Sovereign
Sid the Kid... I gain more respect for this guy every year.
I don't like overhyped players so while everyone here was talking Sid, I was talking Ovi. Even in the draft year. It was surprising how many people were still clueless about Ovi and Malkin becuase of their draft year, and the hype that surrounded Sid locally. While I hoped, for the sake of the game, that he and Ovi would both break the 100pt mark in their rookie years and was not disappointed, I had rooted for Ovi over Sid. And for years I have said that Ovi was the better player, especially in fantasy hockey, because he brought more to the table. And he had PERSONALITY!!!!! Personality goes a long way (for more on personality see the discussion between John Travolta and Sam Jackson in Pulp Fiction).

Anyways, over the last 3 years, it has become apparent to me that Sid was perhaps the better player. Ovi is still AMAZING, and when he is on, maybe more value because of positional limitations in some Fantasy hockey formats. But Sid has proven the better leader, and has shown that he can change his game and is more adept. Last season and this season he has also shown that he can score at a similar or at least very respectable pace. Due to that, my vote is Sid, until one of the other 3 (I think Stamkos deserves consideration) proves better. And he is slowly getting a personality too!
December 21, 2010
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mick said:

hawkdog
Geno I would still take Stamkos in a keeper league.
By in the mood you mean russian right?
Lets's see how Stamkos does in his fourth year.

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December 21, 2010
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Dale McCarthy said:

digitalmonkey
... "In the mood" is the problem, Dobber. I do find it ammusing how you refused to include Stamkos in the top 3 talk during his tremendous run earlier in the season, but speak of Malkin's greatness after a couple of games back. smilies/smiley.gif
December 21, 2010
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DuklaNation said:

DuklaNation
... If Malkin isnt in the mood at all times, then Crosby is clearly better. Even if effort is equal, Id take Crosby. Safer pick and the better all around player now. Look at that face off play last night. Thats a superstar play.
December 21, 2010
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... Anze - Do you mean Talbot? smilies/grin.gif
December 21, 2010
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... Sheldon - Barker is back from his personal issues and the team made him a healthy scratch due to his horrible game vs. Anaheim, per Michael Russo. He was able to play and didn't.
December 21, 2010
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sheldon said:

golfguy1672
... Barker was actually scratched to deal with personal issues. That's why Stoner was in the lineup.
December 21, 2010
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Anze said:

Anze
... Nobody is better than Geno, except the guy he is playing with right now.
December 21, 2010
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