See a quick example of everything in action - why I guarantee that you will need this (because if your competitor has it, you're toast).

 

For $4.99 per season (works out to 0.43 cents/month, or less than one cent per day) you get all of these tools at your fingertips. New in the summer of 2013 - ALL tools that can be found on other sites are now completely FREE. We only charge a tiny amount for the 'unique' tools that we provide. Check the shop for details.

 

Why are we going to pay now? I'll explain...

 

Those of you who read my ramblings frequently knew this was coming two years ago. We wanted to move to pay last year, but things were crazy timewise - for example, creator Jason Arbuthnot got married.

 

Well now we've moved that section to a pay section. I apologize to those who were caught off guard. This tool is fantastic and is used industry-wide by newspaper journalists, television reporters and leading bloggers...

 

 

 

 

"The Frozen Pool line combo tracker is like having a league's worth of scouts at your fingertips - just another reason why the information and analysis from Frozen Pool is some of the best in the business. Inherently, I suck at fantasy hockey. Frozen Pool gives me a chance to win. Or, at the very least, suck less." - Greg Wyshynski, Yahoo! Puck Daddy


"Frozen Pool’s line combinations are top shelf and an outstanding resource for anyone looking to gain a competitive edge in fantasy hockey." - Scott Cullen, TSN.ca
 

 
 
"A one-of-a-kind resource that I turn to every week for insight into who's playing with who in every situation." - James Mirtle, Globe Sports

 

 

And as Tweeted by Jon Press from JapersRink.com:

 

JP

 

This has been free for five years, but now it's time to give Jason a little something for 1000+ hours of his time. Now dig out some change from the back of your couch and BUY IT HERE for immediate access!

 

 


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adamhdwilson said:

adamhdwilson
... Is there anyway to tell what forward position guys are playing. wingers are always at a premium. it would be nice to know whos been spending more time at the wing
October 19, 2013
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tripel said:

tripel
... oops, sorry .. i see below ppl having the same issues w compare-a-player, nevermind
still willing if you need to send the jar
August 06, 2013
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tripel said:

tripel
... logged in, bought the latest package (as I do every year), but cant get into FP .... is there a jar i need to pee in or something?
August 06, 2013
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... Hi Everybody, I check this comments section about once per year. So if you want a response next July, then comment. If you want a faster response, send me an email via the contact link at the bottom.
July 27, 2013
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... Most of the tools are now free, szuturon. There was never a package that included Frozen Pool, but Frozen Pool is now $4.99 for everything. I'm not sure why $4.99 needs a further discount, just dig out some change between the couch cushions!
July 27, 2013
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szuturon said:

szuturon
Fantasy Package no longer includes Frozen Pool? Been buying the fantasy hockey pack for I think the last 3-4 years now... I didn't even look before I bought this year. I'm disappointed the Compare-A-Player and other functions aren't included like they were before.
July 04, 2013
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Big E said:

Big E
Frozen Pool I still can't access Compare A Player. Any idea why?
June 18, 2013 | url
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Big E said:

Big E
... Guys, I'm unable to access Frozen Pool Compare A Player. Even though I'm correctly logged in it won't allow me access. Any ideas?

Thks,

Eric
June 17, 2013
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Worsley said:

Worsley
... Why can't I gain access to line combos?
May 05, 2013
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acegrand said:

acegrand
Access I recently purchased the draft guide with frozen pool access, however I can't access the Frozen pool. What's on the go?
August 13, 2012
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Big E said:

Big E
... Don't understand guys why I'm not able to access Frozen Pool anymore. Please will you check & advise?

Thanks
July 06, 2012
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Tatawaka said:

Tatawaka
... Hey Dobber,

I scrolled on pretty much all the comments, and can't seem to find this answer:
Will there be a package next year that would include the guides and this part of the website too?
I'd pay an extra for the line combos and everything when buying the guides, but am too lazy to pull out my credit card twice...hehe

By the way, the only reason I think that there has been so much bad comments about this $$$ issue is that pretty much everybody was sure that those line combos and other tools were part of Dobberhockey.com, not frozenpool, anyway I know I did.

Keep the good work tho! and thx for all tips!
January 20, 2012
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Dobber said:

Dobber
FREE Anyone who wants this free, feels that they should get this for free, and thinks that the copycats out there offer as much as we do (they don't, by the way - you can imitate but you can't duplicate sorry) - please email me and I will gladly give you free subscription.
January 18, 2012
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krisco said:

sasquatch
Doh Forgot you guys started charging for this feature, excellent feature too.... out of curiosity is it US or Canadian dollars we're talking here? either way my Aussie dollar is apparently superior to both making this great feature even cheaper at today's rate! smilies/grin.gif
January 12, 2012
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lars said:

lolsen
lcbtd if you read my post you will see that i presented a solution that is well suited for everyone. i respect 100% getting paid for work and i understand business and customer retention / service fundamentals. i have worked in online marketing and internet monetization for a long time and i feel that there is a time and place for certain initiatives.

to jason / dobber stay competitive and keep your stuff free and make your money through smart and educated monetization of your websites.
October 07, 2011
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lcbtd said:

germant
Free / Pay / Shut the hell up For all those whining about having to pay for somebody else's sweat - please, for the love of god, shut the hell up.

Just because it was once free doesn't indenture Dobber or Jason to you for life.

If Jason wants to charge for his work, then so be it. Hell, if Dobber wants to charge for his ramblings (though he said he never will, I'd pay for those too!), then that's his right.

If you don't like it, then go do your own legwork. Maybe start up your own site. Post a link so I don't have to pay Jason and I'll just use your hard work to earn fantasy hockey success! Until you do that (and realize the work these guys put in), then maybe stop complaining, enjoy the free content Dobber already provides and be happy with that.

Sheesh!
October 07, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
Alex Alex, how about this - you pay 25 cents per use.

Will that work?

So if you use it...say three or four times per month then you pay about 83 cents. Sound good? Well...that's what we're charging. Ten bucks - 12 months - 83 cents per month.

This data is pulled straight from NHL.com - using the game shift charts. Can't get more accurate.


October 06, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
Lars Lars - my site is free and always will be.
For the last 1900 days in a row I have provided advice, rankings, columns and forum for free. And for the next 1900 days in a row I will continue to provide those things. For free.

I understand the need to keep things on the Internet for free. I am anti-pay when it comes to content. The dinosaurs who suddenly charge for access to their site will learn pretty quickly that this is not the way.

These same dinosaurs also control the advertising system online - that is to say that, even with 6 million page views in a month, that doesn't give me $2000 per month. To feed my family, I need to make money somehow. And even with that in mind, my site is STILL free. What do I do? I give you, the reader, something in exchange for money. That something is my fantasy guide. Selling my fantasy guide gives me enough to make a living. And as such my site will always be free.

Frozen Pool is Jason Arbuthnot's section and for the last three years we have made it known that it would be a pay section. This move has been talked about and in the works for three years - in fact, last summer I announced that for the 2010-11 season, Frozen Pool would go to pay so be prepared...but we were unable to set that up for last year because of hectic life (Jason got married, I had a baby, etc).

In keeping with my "get something tangible for your money" strategy, this is a tangible tool. It is not an opinion or news column that the dinosaurs of the Internet try to charge you for - this is getting something for you money. And now, with this shift, Jason is finally getting something for 10,000+ hours of work, and I don't begrudge him that. Now, we separate the fantasy enthusiasts from the freeloaders - and the enthusiasts are applauding the move. The reason? Because the so-called 'lazy' (their word) guy in their pool was getting quick/easy information and now that 'lazy' guy will no longer get it unless he puts in the effort of paying for it. So the poolies who put in the effort/time/money once again get the edge that they deserve. Jason's section, in terms of ads, was giving him $200/month or two grand a year at best. Come on. Now, under this model, he might hopefully get 15 grand - still not close to what he deserves - readers get incredible value for their 83 cents a month.

October 06, 2011
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lars said:

lolsen
boo boo, these tools have been free for ages why charge now... cant you find another way to monetize your site? what attracted me here in the first place was the tools frozen pool provided not just the articles... are you going to charge to read the articles soon too? what if facebook slapped on a membership fee? oh no wait they will never do that because 99% of their revenue comes from advertising not memberships.
October 05, 2011
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Alex said:

Only1Hockeytown
... Few times a month*. Freudian slip, maybe?

And I don't even use it for fantasy leagues. I use it for hockey discussion about various players. Also, I'd be curious how the application actually acquires/complies the data.
September 26, 2011 | url
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Alex said:

Only1Hockeytown
Not cool.... As someone who used this feature sometimes but not very often, this is crap. The line combos/production tools were extremely useful but as I only used them a few times a money, paying for it is ridiculous. There needs to be some sort of middle ground. Find a way to work it so that you can use it a certain amount of times per day/week/month but if you want to use it regularly or more extensively you can then have a subscription account.
September 26, 2011 | url
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Mark Quinn said:

rdsrangers
... How can I find out what I purchased....I thought I had the complete package. If so, where do you go to downloads updates to the Future of Fantasy and Fantasy Guide PDfs

Thanks
September 18, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... Al - If you dumb down this tool enough, then it could be summarized in that way, yes. But this "middle man" saves you hours each day.
Example - you didn't see the Philly-Columbus game last night. So you go to NHL.com and look at their ice time and their shifts. Scrolling down through each player, you see that from 9:10 until 9:57, Daniel Briere was on the ice. Scroll around and look through the players and then you find that Scott Hartnell was on the ice at 9:13 until 9:57. Some more squinting at the page and scrolling and you discover that Jakub Voracek was on the ice at 9:06 until 9:52. There, after all that work, you have just concluded that for one shift the line was Briere-Hartnell-Voracek.

One shift.

But with one click of the Frozen Pool tool, you get all shifts, any game, any player not just their linemates, but their production with different linemates. This information is nowhere else. And that is just ONE tool.

Not worth 83 cents a month? You can't even buy a snack-sized bag of Doritos for that price. I guess if you save your money, then in TWO months you could go out and buy a snack-sized bag of chips...
September 12, 2011
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MrBlack said:

MrBlackthehockeyguy
... I can't seem to find anything on the site that does what I was talking about. I drafted Bryz so now I need to know what teams play on PHI off nights the most, can someone tell me where in the members area this is?
September 10, 2011
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AL said:

grindin griers
Hmmm I don't know if I like what I would be paying for tho. I would basically be paying for someone that is able to get this information from somewhere else and then convert it to a different format on a website. Doesn't seem like I should have to pay the "middle man" for things I could easily do on my own if I only knew where the data came from.
September 09, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
Still being serious JF - Goalie Post is a different situation - I bought Goalie Post and actually get money for that one. So I took Goalie Post, which was a 100% paid site, and I made a key part of that site FREE. So I made the site "more free".
But Frozen Pool is Jason's site. I've negotiated discounted rates with everyone in my network if they combine their efforts into a package. I didn't have to do that - then you would be charged full price going to each separately.

Next year, with more time, this will all be more simplified and I'll be trying to increase the discounts/deals further
September 06, 2011
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shaun b said:

shingy
Frozen Pool Take it from someone who has spent WAY too much time on fantasy hockey over the past few years, this tool is awesome.
The last 3 games option(for adding FA or to determine who to sit etc..), the compare a player option, along with all the others are so worth the small price for what they do. Honestly, if you're just touch and go with your pools, maybe you don't need it yet but for someone who enjoys their pools and puts in a bit of time, you really shouldn't go without this thing.
Fantasy hockey is becoming a big business and the demand for all things related is huge. I've searched the internet for years now and from what I found, Dobber and his staff have stepped up more than anyone...by a long shot. I mean, all summer there were great articles to read. That's commitment. Another thing, for anyone who has used this tool over the years, I'm sure they'll have no problem paying for it now, especially considering we've been using it for free for so long.

@JF Houle

I know where you're coming from. It's really hard to grasp the cost sometimes, especially when you're not aware of just how valuable the product is or if you're simply not clear on how all of these moving parts come together.
September 06, 2011
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JF Houle said:

jeffoule
Seriously. It's not two completely independent sites. You have overlaping content between packages. For example, if you subscribe to the Goalie Post you get "Premium Rankings: Access Dobber’s Top-50 Fantasy" which I already have with my 30 bucks package.
September 06, 2011
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Mac Vincent said:

dmvincent
This is awesome Can't wait to start using it!
September 05, 2011
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MrBlack said:

MrBlackthehockeyguy
... Thanks for the quick response,I'll be signing up for that tonight should save me tons of research.
September 05, 2011
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Dobber said:

Dobber
... MrBlack - yes, that is the Goalie Post membership/website. I'll have a video on that up within a few days, but that's one of the benefits of that site
September 05, 2011
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MrBlack said:

MrBlackthehockeyguy
... Does this tool tell me which goalies play on different nights the most often? I am about to start a draft where you can only dress one goalie/night and I'd definitely pay $10 to not have to figure that out manually. Anyone have any resources for that type of thing?(end thread hijack)
September 05, 2011
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Pino said:

NatureX
Come on people. While it does suck to have to pay for something that was absolutely free....it is a great tool and well worth $9.99 for the year. Add that to the fact that Jason is a very nice guy...after speaking with me about my pool he was nice enough to change the stats to show full names instead of just last names...fine, not that big a deal, but he could have said too bad. For that reason alone, I'd pay for his site.

Plus, I actually used the line combo tracker quite a few times last year.
September 05, 2011 | url
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Dobber said:

Dobber
Seriously. JF - $30 goes to me for the Fantasy Guide (400 hours), Midseason Guide (100 hours), Prospects Report (400 hours), the Playoff Draft List (40 hours) and running this entire site for free - that includes Server costs, paying a manager, paying a graphics designer and ensuring that ramblings are up 365 days a year, rankings are up every month, and columns are flowing. Thank you very much to contributing to all of that.

Your reluctance to pay Jason 83 cents a month for his added work is fair enough, but what is unfair is the out-and-out venom in your note. He has given you this section for free for the last five years, and even if you don't subscribe - you should still thank him for the help in giving you this much for free up until now.

Try not to combine my work with his just because it is under the same site name - if it makes it easier for you to understand, I can always move him back to frozenpool.com and make the separation of the two sites easier to grasp. The $30 is paying DobberHockey. The $8.50 or $9.99 is paying Frozen Pool.

September 05, 2011
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JF Houle said:

jeffoule
Seriously?? this is crap. You pay for the 30 bucks package and you don't even include these features! WTF
September 05, 2011
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Pengwin7 said:

Pengwin7
Love Frozen Pool Love, love, love this tool.
One of my favourite hockey stat resources on the internet!
Great video!
September 05, 2011
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September 04, 2011
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