Fantasy Impact: The Philadelphia Flyers have re-acquired Steve Downie from the Colorado Avalanche in exchange for Maxime Talbot.

The Flyers get: a feisty energy winger with enough offensive punch to fill in on a scoring line. After missing all but two games last season Downie had jumped back into the Avalanche lineup with real success scoring seven points in 11 games skating on a line with Matt Duchene and Ryan O’Reilly. He was also a real pugilist, racking up 36 PIM so far.


This is a contract year for Downie and coming off an injury you have to think he is highly motivated to prove he can be a difference maker.

The Avalanche get: a feisty energy center who can skate on the third or fourth line. Talbot is also a big time penalty killer who was leading all Flyers forwards in short-handed ice time this season.


The Avalanche also save nearly a million in cap space with this move. They already have more cap space than anyone but should the Semyon Varlamov situation go south they would have more than enough room to make a play for a starter – Ryan Miller, perhaps.

Fantasy Players Impacted: This deal certainly hurts Downie. He was skating on the Avalanche top line and seeing top power unit minutes. It’s hard to see him getting that opportunity in Philadelphia considering Jakub Voracek, Scott Hartnell, Wayne Simmonds and Matt Read are all likely ahead of him on the depth chart, to say nothing of Brayden Schenn and Vincent Lecavalier who both also need power play time.


Downie gives the Flyers four right-wingers competing for ice time so one of he, Voracek, Simmonds or Read will be moved to the off-wing or find themselves out of a job. This is Philadelphia so it wouldn’t be surprising if more moves were made but right now Downie may start on the fourth line.


Adding Downie also gives the Flyers, already one of the league’s most penalized teams another PIM taker and they lost their best penalty-killer in Talbot so Steve Mason could be in for more rubber.


Downie’s departure opens up a spot on the Avalanche top line for P.A. Parenteau to reclaim. He’s off to a bit of a slow start skating on the third line with Nathan MacKinnon and Jamie McGinn while only seeing second power play unit minutes. A return to the top line would be a huge boon for his fantasy stock.


The Talbot acquisition is an interesting one for the Avalanche because as we all know what the league’s top penalty killing team needs is more penalty killers. Guys like Alex Tanguay, MacKinnon and Duchene, seeing marginal penalty kill minutes could see that sucked down to zero, which would leave them with more energy to focus on scoring.


Talbot’s presence could also push MacKinnon, struggling on face-offs to the wing where he can ease into the game better. Overall, however, losing Parenteau probably hurts MacKinnon more than adding Talbot helps, at least in terms of scoring.

Fantasy Players this helps, in order:

1. P.A. Parenteau

2. Matt Duchene

3. Semyon Varlamov

4. JS Giguere

Fantasy Players this hurts, in order:


1. Steve Downie

2. Nathan MacKinnon

3. Steve Mason

4. Wayne Simmonds

5. Matt Read

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bballplyr321 said:

... Quite an excellent piece here. Love how you actually looked in depth into how it would effect both teams including the goalies rather then just throwing up a couple of lines about how Downie is still going to get his PIM but lose points and Talbot may see better linemates and see his numbers bump a bit. Keep up the good work both here and in your ramblings sir. I look forward to reading everything you write.
November 01, 2013
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Rad64 said:

... Hopefully, Downie ends up playing LW with Giroux and Vinny. That shouldn't hurt his value too much. smilies/smiley.gif
November 01, 2013
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metaldude26 said:

... Seadowg - I agree, this makes sense for the Avalanche. I don't know where Downie is at but they don't get much better than Talbot for character guys. And Downie's on an expiring deal so the Avalanche maintain an asset for a couple more years. Solid pick up, I just thought it was hilarious that the best penalty-killing team would go out and acquire a penalty killer.

For Philly I think this is about giving them some long term flexibility more than anything.

Shingy - It's semantics but it's hard to argue that the move doesn't hurt Downie. It may return him to his expected value but it still brings it down. At least until the other shoe drops on Philly's end.
October 31, 2013
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Excelsior said:

October 31, 2013
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repenttokyo said:

October 31, 2013
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shingy said:

Great write up, thanks.

As far as Downie owners go, if you drafted him as a potential 40 pt, 150 pim guy, his value probably hasn't wavered much. His situation may not be quite as peachy but in the end, he'll probably produce what's expected of him. Depending on how things shake out in philly, he could even outproduce his Avs numbers. Throw in the new contract motivation. It should be interesting.

October 31, 2013
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SeaDawg said:

... I don't find this move puzzling at all for the Avs.

As I mentioned in the forum, this move enables Parenteau to play at even strength with his regular PP partners, which is something Roy has stated he wants.

Roy and Sakic are going to continually try to improve their team and the addition of Talbot makes them a better penalty killing team, makes their 3rd line better defensively, and enables Parenteau to remain in the top 6 (where he needs to be to succeed).

This was a fantastic deal for the Avs, with the added benefit of freeing up some cap space for the remainder of this year and dealing a pending UFA for a player signed to a reasonable contract until 2015-16.

As for the Flyers, I think other moves are pending. I firmly believe Simmonds will be dealt soon, and Downie is a good replacement for him.
October 31, 2013
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MC83 said:

Nice work Insightful stuff. Well done.
October 31, 2013
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davidgoodburn said:

... Good analysis Steve. A puzzling move from both sides.
October 31, 2013
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