Lupul

 

Fantasy Impact: TSN reports that Anahiem has traded Joffrey Lupul, Jake Gardiner and a 2013 conditional draft pick to Toronto for defenseman Francois Beauchemin.

 

The Ducks get: a solid No. 4 defenseman whom the Leafs had miscast as a No.2 guy. He is not. He is a 30-point defenseman who is stable defensively and works best on the second pairing. At $3.8 million, I cannot believe the Leafs got the return that they did. They almost win just from shedding the salary alone.

 

The Leafs get: an underrated top-six winger. Injuries prevented Lupul from making an impact this year or last, but I think had he remained healthy we would be seeing him in a whole new light. In Gardiner, the Leafs get a top offensive prospect blueliner. Knowing Brian Burke, they will sign Gardiner out of college and he'll get a long look in the fall. But he is still two years away from regular duty and five years away from having an impact in fantasy leagues.


Fantasy Players Impacted: This will free up some ice time for Carl Gunnarsson, and I would keep an eye on him as he has been playing very poorly this season in a depth role. This could be what the doctor ordered. Bringing Lupul on board takes some of the pressure off of Phil Kessel. Lupul's ability to create offense is superior to all other Leaf forwards except Kessel and maybe Mikhail Grabovski. Lupul will no longer be buried on the third line and I fully expect a "pop" from him. If he can stay healthy, I think he'll surprise in the same way that Clarke MacArthur has. With him leaving Anaheim, this frees up ice time again for the likes of Matt Beleskey in Anaheim.

 

Meanwhile, Beauchemin in Anaheim could cut Cam Fowler's ice time and knock Luca Sbisa right out of the lineup for now. Fowler has been producing some great offense, but his plus/minus has been hurting (minus-8 in the last eight games). This will take some of that pressure off, but his goals and assists will take a hit.

 

Players this deal helps, in order:

1. Lupul

2. Beleskey

3. Gunnarsson

4. Kessel

5. Dan Sexton

6. Tyler Bozak

7. Jonas Hiller (defense upgrade)

8. Fowler (long term)

 

Players this deal hurts, in order:

1. Fowler (short term)

2. Sbisa

3. Kris Versteeg

 


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Rad64 said:

Rad64
Versteeg I wonder if TO ships Versteeg back to the Hawks now that they landed Lupul?
February 10, 2011
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Puckhead said:

Puckhead
Don Coburleone... Don, I respect your opinions, but how you can make the argument that Burke is a fraud, after he helped build a winning team in Anaheim is low...talk about thankless. Yes Perry and Getzlaf were already there, but they were kids, who had little playoff experience. Without the moves Burke made, that Anaheim doesn't win the cup, and doesn't become a force in the west. In that case you get to watch Getzlaf and Perry take longer to become stars, and maybe you are sitting here complaining about how Anaheim wasted these talents.

Part of being a good GM, is knowing what you have and going to get what you need. You want to call it luck that Pronger's wife wanted out of Edmonton, that is a reach, and very convenient for you, but the fact is, that there were lots of other teams interested, and it was Burke who put the deal together. Lets not forget, he also brought in Marchant, and Beauchemin from Columbus, which added the depth they needed to get over the hump as well.

I am not ready to suggest that Leafs fans erect a bronze statue of the man, but lets give some credit where it is deserved.

Puck
February 10, 2011
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Puckhead said:

Puckhead
Beauchemin return... I don't think we need to look at potential off ice issues with Lupul to try and rationalize why he has been traded 4 times in his young career. He was traded for Pronger twice, came into Edmonton as a native son, on the heels of the Pronger disaster, and couldn't live up to the pressure of being a home town kid, and then the injuries took over. Don't get me wrong, this is by no means a trade that will be a fix all for the Leafs, far from it, but its a good trade, because, Burke addressed a need, from a position of strength, the D, and brought in a prospect for the future.

So if that means taking on a bit more salary, and an extra year, so be it. Someone mentioned earlier that Gardiner becomes the PP QB in waiting, with Karberle soon to be moved, or walking away, and nobody else in the system has the pedigree to take the job. All this for type of guy who the Leafs have more of, with Schenn, Aulie, and to a lesser extent Komisarek. I don't see the down side to this deal for the Leafs, and Anaheim, obviously got the guy they wanted back, who will help their porous D. As with most players in the Toronto system, they are being used out of the position they are best suited. Now Beauchemin can settle in to his complimentary role with Fowler, or Visnovsky, and stabilize the D making a run for a playoff spot.
February 10, 2011
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DonCoburleone said:

DonCoburleone
Lupul And I don't mean to make it sound like Lupul sucks, its just to describe this trade the way you did is definately overrating Lupul's value... In other words, enjoy Steve Sullivan Toronto!
February 09, 2011 | url
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DonCoburleone said:

DonCoburleone
Really? Come on you act like Toronto stole Joffrey Lupul?? Someone said it earlier on here but there is a reason a talented "top 6" guy has been traded 4 times in 5 years. It's well known here in Southern California that Lupul is lazy, LOVES to party, and on top of that (and probably because of that) he is a BAND-AID-BOY. Good riddance!

And on top of that, all you Toronto fans who don't already hate Burke let me tell you something about him: He knows how to add complementary players to Top End talent, THATS IT! He was handed Getzlaf, Teemu, McDonald, Perry, Niedermayer and Giguere (in his prime Jiggy was a force). Then he just built around that core, got lucky to acquire Pronger cuz his wife hated Edmonton, and VOILA! Stanley Cup! Burke is a F-R-A-U-D!
February 09, 2011 | url
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Puckhead said:

Puckhead
Re: Trade.. Fowler ahead of Gardiner is a no brainer, but the reason they decided to move him is because GM Murray and the Ducks' scouts are extremely high on fellow 2008 draft pick D Justin Schultz 43rd overall, who has passed Gardiner on the ladder to the big show. Either way, if anyone would have put a hypothetical trade like this together for Beauchemin, it would have been dismissed as ridiculous, and yet here it is. Good on Burke for not only getting young Gardiner, but the great coup is Lupul!

Most of the so called experts will suggest that Burke had to take back Lupul's salary in the deal, and maybe there is some truth to that, but this guy has proven that he can play, and thrive in the NHL, when healthy. He had 10 goals last season in 25 games before his injury, and has 5 goals and 13 pts in 27 games this season. What people need to remember is that coming into a season after missing training camp let alone the first 2 1/2 months is not easy, and it usually shows in their point totals. Plus he was playing 3rd line wing, behind Ryan, and Selanne. Yes he has a fairly hefty cap hit, but when you can dish that Beauchemin deal, and his sub par play on both sides of the puck for that type of return you have done a great job!!!

Puck
February 09, 2011
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Jon Dey said:

Sovereign
Trade... Gardiner, while promising, got passed over by Fowler. That is why he was available. He was drafted two years prior to Fowler, and still seen as not-as-good and therefore expendable. While on the surface seems like a coup for Burke to land a former 1st round prospect - I see it as an astute use of franchise resources by Anaheim. A team that does not have a lot of money, and can replace stagnant salary in Lupul who's roster spot holds back other players in development, and allows them to bring in a steady Dman which is something they need (especilally if Emery is the guys between the pipes going forward). Leafs obviously trade a dman which they have an abundance of for a scoring forward which they need desperately.

This is not a steal for either team, it is a Good deal. The 4th was probably a toss-in because the leafs are saddled with Lupul for longer than Anaheim is saddled with Beauchmin.

It is just a good deal to me.
February 09, 2011
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Martin said:

mapletreemarty
Good thing Anaheim turned Burke down in November... Came across this tidbit and wanted to share:

November 15, 2010:
"The Toronto Maple Leafs are in a terrible slump. GM Brian Burke has to make a move before the Leafs dig a huge hole that they cannot get themselves out of. He does not want to give Boston a top five pick in this years draft.

Burke has contacted Anaheim about Joffrey Lupul. He is set to come back from injury. Lupul currently makes 4.25 million a year and the Leafs can afford to take on his contract. And Anaheim would love to move his contract. The Leafs are offering Mikhail Grabovski.

Anaheim is seriously considering this offer and Burke is trying very hard to land Lupul."
http://www.puckmeplease.com/nhl-rumors/367-joffrey-lupul-trade-rumors.html

This could have been Kessel 2.0....haha
February 09, 2011
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fzusher said:

fzusher
The biggest winner of this deal Could very well be Jake Gardiner. On Anaheim he was competing with Fowler and Sbisa for PP time. On the Leafs, other than Kaberle, there's no one on the team or in the system who can quarterback a power play or play the offensive D role - Phaneuf, Aullie, Schenn are at best point shots, and Gunnarson is at best second PP, and others are even more useless offensively. The best they have is Lashoff. And Kaberle will be gone in the off season if not earlier. Gardiner, who with 30 points in 30 games in the NCAA this year so far looks like he has little left to prove at that level, just got the red carpet laid at his feet to become the Leafs' next top PP quarterback, barring other trades/FA signings (and there's little realistic available in the latter category).
February 09, 2011
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Larry said:

Rollie1967
... I agree with Pengwin7's analogy, there maybe off-ice issues that have led to Lupul being dealt so frequently, not to mention he cant stay healthy. But considering the Leafs were dman heavy and Lupul has some upside untapped still and they got a decent prospect for a miss used 30yr old dman I would consider it a win for Burke. Lupul may be tagged a 'bust' if he cant stay healthy, but then its not like they gave up a future allstar in Beau.
February 09, 2011
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Martin said:

mapletreemarty
Lupul!!!! http://www.nhl.com/scores/recaps/243_3_recap.html

Lupul is a goal scorer, who's had some bad luck with injuries. He'll get his groove back, and in a place like TO, where they need these types of guys to play 18 mins a night, he will thrive.
February 09, 2011
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Pengwin7 said:

Pengwin7
Misfits Burke's management of the Laffs reminds me of what the NFL's Raiders have tried.
Lets grab a bunch of misfits and throw them together and cross our fingers.
Guess what... it doesn't work. There is a reason Lupul has changed teams four times in the last five years. A reason.
February 09, 2011
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Ryan said:

letnry
... Expect the status quo from Grabovski and MacArthur?
February 09, 2011
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Ryan said:

letnry
...
They almost win just from shedding the salary alone.

But Lupul's cap hit is more than Beauchemin's, so really no salary shed here.
February 09, 2011
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Reddawg said:

Reddawg
... I agree that the Leafs got a great return on Beauchemin, but the comment "I cannot believe the Leafs got the return that they did. They almost win just from shedding the salary alone." is confusing me. They took on a higher salary in Lupul, and he's signed for a year longer...
February 09, 2011
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Jeremy said:

onthebeach96
Love it! Great deal by the Leafs!!!! I can't believe that Anaheim traded their top dman prospect! Lupul needed a change of scenery and this could work out well for him! Get him in the lineup ASAP! I wonder what that conditional pick means?!

Work it Burke!!!!
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